[svlug] Bagels and 'Buntu7.10 - Saturday installfest

[Benjamin Floering]

hello

On 10/19/07, Christian Einfeldt <einfeldt at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> hi
>
> On 10/19/07, Kristian Erik Hermansen < kristian.hermansen at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > On 10/19/07, Bill Ward <bill at wards.net> wrote:
> > > Maybe you can get VMWare to donate the requisite software?
> >
> > Virtualization options: vmware, qemu, virtualbox, kvm, xen, etc...
> >
>
> vmware is proprietary, as I recall.  I believe that Xen and qemu are Free
> Software.  I have heard lots of people talk about Xen working pretty well,
> especially with openSUSE, which we will be using on one of the boxes. And I
> know that Xen is in the openSUSE repositories, because I have bumped into it
> on YAST.  Does anyone have experience with Xen?  Particularly anyone who
> will be at the Google installfest tomorrow?  We are also going to be
> bringing a Feisty Edubuntu box tomorrow, and Wikipedia says that Xen works
> on Feisty Ubuntu:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xen
>
> Thanks!


I know you said you didn't want to use vmware, but bear in mind that both
vmware-player and vmware-server are free.  Much of the source is open but
there is a significant amount of closed source in the kernel module (which
can be used with just about any kernel through the any-any patch).  You just
have to pay for vmware-workstation and every other product of theirs I did
not mention, so you shouldn't have to worry about holding a bake sale for
vmware since the player is all you need.  Unfortunately I have not tried Xen
out yet but I have tried both qemu and kvm.  I found that qemu was
significantly slower when compared to what vmware could do on the same
hardware.  kvm was better but you need a relatively new processor with
virtualization extensions to take advantage of it, and it still didn't match
vmware's performance (but this was three months ago and there has been a few
new kvm releases since then).

There is a way to start an install to a vmware image using qemu (since
vmware-player doesn't let you create images), and I seem to recall seeing a
post on the ubuntu forums with full instructions.  If you can't find anyone
with Xen experience tomorrow I'd gladly help you get vmware, qemu, and/or
kvm working on a Feisty tomorrow.

-Ben
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