[svlug] Looking for DSL recommendations

[Daniel Gimpelevich]

On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 09:45:09 -0800, Joel Seidman wrote:

> 
> --- Daniel Gimpelevich <daniel at gimpelevich.san-francisco.ca.us> wrote:
> 
>> On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 10:29:20 -0800, Joel Seidman wrote:
>> 
>> > Internet is bundled with video,
>> > and you can't get video separately.
>> 
>> This is not correct; you _can_ get video separately; 
> 
> You might be right. I wasn't offered it and I don't see it on their web pages.
> 
>>you cannot get
>> Internet separately.
> 
> Internet over the phone line has been available for years, without video. I guess you mean
> something more specific.

Correct. I was referring specifically to U-verse.

> Since U-Verse services come over the phone line (or am I wrong about that?), I assumed the
> Internet part used regular ADSL to get into the house, but maybe it is a different signaling
> method, in which case I guess you would be correct under a narrow definition of "Internet".

You cannot have ADSL and U-verse at the same time, because they go
over the same phone line. Once you sign up for U-verse, you can never get
ADSL again.

>> > I asked if they brought fiber to the house. CS said yes.
> 
> My next line you omitted:
>> > I think that's incorrect though; I've heard it only goes to the neighborhood. Still, that
> should
>  
>> Also incorrect; AT&T has no fiber anywhere. The service is VDSL with
>> compression and QoS out the wazoo. It is not possible to get fiber in any
>> AT&T area, unless you lay the fiber yourself all the way to their
>> switches, and convince them to hook you up after that.
> 
> The following is from an ATT press release page (http://www.att.com/gen/press-room?pid=5838):
> 
> "AT&T expects to reach nearly 19 million households as part of its initial deployment by the end
> of 2008. AT&T is adding about 40,000 miles of fiber to its already fiber-rich network, bringing
> fiber even closer to customers' homes using fiber-to-the-node (FTTN) and fiber-to-the-premises
> (FTTP) technologies."
> 
> This, plus the statements of ATT customer service, is what I based my comment on; I don't fully
> understand the terminology, and it could be all hype, for all I know. (Sorry for posting such
> blatantly commercial material.) Anyway, I think it's a fascinating time, with very dynamic
> technological changes to available information sources.
> 
> -- Joel

Read this:
http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/81619