[svlug] Bickering

Bill Teeple bill at teeple.tv
Thu Dec 27 11:40:37 PST 2007


LOL - ok, that was funny!

Bill


> Now we're bickering about the bickering!!  Is this email third order
> bickering? LOL
>
> On Dec 27, 2007 7:45 AM, Bill Teeple <bill at teeple.tv> wrote:
>
>> I don't blame Warren for leaving.
>>
>> Rick - although you have a good 'personal' observation, it doesn't
>> seem constructive for building up the group into a better organization.
>>
>> There is way to much in-fighting that occurs on this list and I
>> believe it is due in part to the relative comfort of sitting behind a
>> keyboard typing away that allows us the level of freedom to more
>> express our true feelings than temper them a bit  in the sake of being
>> a team striving towards a goal.
>>
>> Much like the way we like to yell at bad drivers and curse them out
>> from our cars - but would probably take a more civil approach if face
>> to face with that person in a parking lot.  Much easier to be rude
>> when it is an impersonal mode of communications.  Proof of this is
>> that the level of civility at meetings seems to be on par with where
>> we should be on this list.  You might not like the opinions, but
>> personal attacks are not the norm there.
>>
>> If this was not a volunteer based organization, and was a business -
>> some of you would have been shown the door a long time ago.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Dec 27, 2007, at 2:52 AM, Rick Moen wrote:
>>
>> > Quoting Edward Cherlin (echerlin at gmail.com):
>> >
>> >> We have just lost Warren Turkal from SVLUG because of our bickering.
>> >
>> > On the evidence, it would seem more plausible that he quit primarily
>> > because he wasn't getting his way:  In particular, he quit immediately
>> > after failing once again to convince the Volunteers list that SVLUG
>> > should become a corporation and then send forms 1023 and 8718 with a
>> > $500 application fee to the IRS for recognition as a tax-exempt
>> > charity.
>> >
>> > When Jason T. Collins ceased being about to host the installfests
>> > for us
>> > at Google, he gave us both advance warning and help finding Peter Neal
>> > as a replacement -- who did the same when his term came.  It's a shame
>> > Warren Turkal didn't see fit to do likewise, but it was good to have
>> > his
>> > help while it lasted.
>> >
>> >
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