[svlug] Bickering

Paul Cubbage oldestgeek at gmail.com
Thu Dec 27 10:19:15 PST 2007


Now we're bickering about the bickering!!  Is this email third order
bickering? LOL

On Dec 27, 2007 7:45 AM, Bill Teeple <bill at teeple.tv> wrote:

> I don't blame Warren for leaving.
>
> Rick - although you have a good 'personal' observation, it doesn't
> seem constructive for building up the group into a better organization.
>
> There is way to much in-fighting that occurs on this list and I
> believe it is due in part to the relative comfort of sitting behind a
> keyboard typing away that allows us the level of freedom to more
> express our true feelings than temper them a bit  in the sake of being
> a team striving towards a goal.
>
> Much like the way we like to yell at bad drivers and curse them out
> from our cars - but would probably take a more civil approach if face
> to face with that person in a parking lot.  Much easier to be rude
> when it is an impersonal mode of communications.  Proof of this is
> that the level of civility at meetings seems to be on par with where
> we should be on this list.  You might not like the opinions, but
> personal attacks are not the norm there.
>
> If this was not a volunteer based organization, and was a business -
> some of you would have been shown the door a long time ago.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Dec 27, 2007, at 2:52 AM, Rick Moen wrote:
>
> > Quoting Edward Cherlin (echerlin at gmail.com):
> >
> >> We have just lost Warren Turkal from SVLUG because of our bickering.
> >
> > On the evidence, it would seem more plausible that he quit primarily
> > because he wasn't getting his way:  In particular, he quit immediately
> > after failing once again to convince the Volunteers list that SVLUG
> > should become a corporation and then send forms 1023 and 8718 with a
> > $500 application fee to the IRS for recognition as a tax-exempt
> > charity.
> >
> > When Jason T. Collins ceased being about to host the installfests
> > for us
> > at Google, he gave us both advance warning and help finding Peter Neal
> > as a replacement -- who did the same when his term came.  It's a shame
> > Warren Turkal didn't see fit to do likewise, but it was good to have
> > his
> > help while it lasted.
> >
> >
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Paul Cubbage
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