[svlug] Announcement: VP transition - bad attitude

[Christian Einfeldt]

hi

On Nov 30, 2007 7:19 PM, Paul Reiber <reiber at gmail.com> wrote:

> So if we hold the process open for a period of time, and no one
> > responds after some kind of formal announcement and notice that an
> election
> > is being held, so speak up now or hold your peace throughout the
> duration of
> > Warren's term, then that might make things smoother.
>
> This is all well and good... but... shouldn't we be taking into account
> how the
> individual people work with each other?


Yeah, that is a point for the voters to consider.  It does seem as if there
is some strong sentiment here on the list in favor of a more formalized
process.  There is a lot to be said for consensus building, IMHO.  I am
sensing that Warren is fairly popular with people, but it would be nice to
have a vote so that we can take the time to hear from the group.


> Warren's been working with me as the
> "Google counterpart" to my installfest coordinator role for some time,
> and he and I
> work really really well together.  If the membership votes, for
> example, Mr. Moen
> into the VP position (though I seriously doubt he'd be interested, but
> just as an example)
> I doubt that as a team we'd be able to be very effective, since he and
> I seem to lock
> horns on things more often than not.


AFAIK, Rick is not even running.  Maybe I missed it, but I didn't see Rick
suggest he was interested.  Still, if Rick would like a shot at becoming VP,
and he were to run and not win (let's just say for the sake of this
discussion), then we would at least know that we made a considered
decision.

>
> Thanks!  The new kernel walkthru sessions are another example; over
> 12,000 hits on
> the first session's youtube video - woo hoo!
>

Yeah, I was talking with Daniel Gimpelevich about that the other night, and
I am looking forward to watching that as well.  Linky, please?  I guess that
I can just search YouTube for SV-LUG, right?  (I am on a really old box
right now that can't really handle video to well).


>
> Regarding the "rush" - there is a little bit of one, as I mentioned
> I'm not comfortable
> being the only officer.


Okay, so that is good to know.  That is one important factor.  But let's
talk about why you are not comfortable with this.  Maybe you have concerns
that could be addressed in other ways.


> So I've appointed Warren as VP.  If the
> membership wants
> to consider that appointment "interim" that's OK with me...


This is a really good point.  This is just a LUG, after all, not the US
Senate.  IMHO, Warren has a large measure of legitimacy in many people's
eyes, so if you want to consider him the interim VP, I don't personally have
a problem with that.  But I think that some people might still want a formal
process, and IMHO, we should think about ways to bring people together and
come up with a solution that popular with people.  People will feel better
about the structure of this LUG if they feel that they have been consulted.


> and if
> they want to vote
> on and ratify it, that's OK with me... and if they want an open vote
> with the opportunity
> for other candidates to run, that's OK with me too, so long as the
> other candidates are
> people who are similarly qualified and similarly willing to do
> productive work with me.


Okay, I hear what you are saying.  But IMHO, if Rick Moen were to run (which
he has not yet announced) and the group were to vote for Rick, IMHO it would
be nice if you and Rick could work out your differences for the good of the
group.  I know that I admire and like you both, but I do wish that you both
could work together here.  After all, you have both contributed a lot to Bay
Area FOSS activities, and if you could just acknowledge that and work
together, I know I would appreciate it.

Also, IMHO, the prevailing wind seems to be in favor of Warren anyway.  I
know that I would personally support Warren, not because Rick isn't smart
and well-qualified and dedicated, but because, as you say, you just work
better with Warren.

see ya
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