[svlug] moin moin vs wiki

[Chris Miller]

On 12/29/06, Rick Moen <rick at linuxmafia.com> wrote:
> Quoting Chris Miller (lordsauronthegreat at gmail.com):
>
> > I'm fairly certain I'm capable of producing a smaller, more
> > perfect solution to SVLUG's needs...
>
> So, a minimal, tailored approach.  Which makes use of PHP seem really
> strange.   But then, also:

PHP is an extremely dynamic language.  Not every system has to be or
is as redeployable as the Wiki solutions you're talking about.

> > I like to use MySQL for other things.
>
> So, a maximal, non-tailored approach, because you like to use that tool.

My view:

MySQL is a database.  It stores data.  It can be used so that you
don't have to write PHP scripts that read in data stored in a file and
manually search for data.

SQL is a very dynamic tool as well.  I'm not certain what kind of
horrific things you're imagining when I talk, but it must be truely
scary.

> You could grind together those two opposing assumptions, to make flour.  ;->

I did  that once during band class.  Mr. A was not happy.

> Anyway, you like re-using tools you know, and who am I to argue?  And I'll
> be interested to see what you create, but obviously there's nothing to
> look at today -- so I'll be interested when there is.  ;->

And there's a 99% chance of there ever being anything to look at.  If
there's already a lot of work done in MoinMoin, I'm not going to start
making my own solution.  If I start to help, it'll be on the MoinMoin
approach.

I'm young, not stupid.

> > ...a custom-tailored one will work better.
>
> Man, if I had the skull of every software consultant I've heard say
> that, usually just before a three-year project fiasco, I'd have been
> able to go bowling with Pol Pot.

You'd also have the best halloween decoration in the Western United States.

I think the project fiascos you're familiar with are generated by a
genuine phobia of hard work (ie. actual coding, not making pretty UML
diagrams).  More code, less viewgraphs.  Project status reports can be
obtained from the nightly build server.

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