[web-team] (forw) Re: Smaug mailing list settings

Rick Moen rick at linuxmafia.com
Wed Jan 6 10:44:47 PST 2010

Followup.  Much now becomes obvious:  Peter bollixed the Smaug mailing
list settings and (accidentally) clobbered the performance of SVLUG's
mailing list server with hundreds of pointless additions to the 'discard
mail from these addresses' roster as a misguided and ineffective
response to once-or-twice-per-day Mailman notices about held spam.

I'm guessing he actually bothered to go read held spams' headers at the
Mailman admin Web pages, and thought he was obligated to do so, and to
dispose of them manually.  As I explain below, that's not what Mailman
admins do:  Instead, they just ignore the held spam in Mailman's admin
queue, and let Mailman dispose of it automatically.

----- Forwarded message from Rick Moen <rick at linuxmafia.com> -----

Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 10:39:23 -0800
From: Rick Moen <rick at linuxmafia.com>
To: Peter Belew <peterbe at sonic.net>
Subject: Re: Smaug mailing list settings
Organization: Dis-

Quoting Peter Belew (peterbe at sonic.net):

> Rick - if you want to change the settings back, please handle all the
> multitude of spams to the list yourself.

One doesn't "handle" held spams in the admin queue.  One just ignores
them, and Mailman expires them out of the queue.  I'm really (quite
honestly, no sarcasm intended) sorry that the solution wasn't obvious.

> There is a tremendous amount of spam on the list recently. 

To the contrary, there has been _zero_ spam on the list in its entire
nine-year history.  Literally, with no exaggeration.  Don't take my word
for it; check for yourself:  http://lists.svlug.org/archives/smaug/

> It's really necessary to filter membership requests, or at least
> prevent spam postings.

It isn't even _helpful_ to filter membership requests, let alone

The way you prevent spam postings is to just sit on your hands, and
thereby not approve them.

> Suggestions as to how to do this better are welcome. But this has
> become very time-consuming for me.

Ignoring notices of held spam from non-subscribed addresses should not
take any time whatsoever, but you know how to remove your name from the
roster of people being sent them, if they bother you that much.

I could have explained all of the above to you if you'd asked, but you
didn't.  I'm always very glad to teach Mailman administration to people.
All you have to do is express an interest in hearing how it's done.

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