[volunteers] (forw) [web-team] Linode Support Ticket 16507235 - svlugmicah (svlugmicah) - ToS Violation - Spam

Sarah Newman newmans at sonic.net
Fri Nov 12 20:36:40 PST 2021


On 11/12/21 7:24 PM, Rick Moen wrote:
> Quoting Sarah Newman (newmans at sonic.net):
> 
>> Thank you Rick.
>>
>> It's also somewhat inevitable that the same will eventually happen with lists.svlug.org.
> 
> It is.  Honestly, I am gratified that it's been carried into this decade
> thanks largely to your good work quick-migrating the former via.net
> physical host's substantive config into a virthost's chroot environment
> at prgmr.com.  That was an inspired idea and even prevented downtime,
> but of course what's really needed is a rebuild, as the scary
> hand-hacked stuff in the chroot is unmaintainable and way obsolete.
> 
> A migration host would need something other than Mailman 2.7, and
> the obvious but somewhat depressing choice is Mailman3, which is
> monstrous.

I have a friend running Mlmmj for his user group, and he seems to like it a lot.

I might be able to convince him to host the svlug mailing lists, but I think that would need to be opt-in for privacy reasons.

>> Given nobody really seems to have the time and interest to maintain
>> infrastructure, I think it's fair to consider just throwing in the
>> towel and relying on a hosted service like meetup for if and when we
>> want to do actual events again.
> 
> Most such options would throw away the mailing list archives, which
> house SVLUG's history going back to 1998.  The archives have been
> largely stable modulo a couple of Mailman archive rebuilds that changed
> individual past message URLs.

I assume it should be possible to make a read-only static copy. Is that incorrect?

> 
> I also have a prejudice that LUGs should eat their own dogfood, which
> includes hosting their own Internet services.  Of course, SVLUG has
> always gladly and gratefully accepted offers of generic infrastructure
> that still gives SVLUG root control and its own content and services
> on its own domains.  I favour that continuing.

One could ask if this is still a LUG - the last time we met was at least a couple of years ago, and the mailing list is pretty quiet. I guess it's 
worth waiting for a post-pandemic world before giving up though.

--Sarah



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