[volunteers] Election deferred

Rick Moen rick at linuxmafia.com
Wed Dec 16 19:30:27 PST 2009

Quoting Mark Weisler (mark at weisler-saratoga-ca.us):

> I've corrected this situation, at least a little. I'll watch for this
> mail traffic as I have sometimes in the past when you (Rick) were on
> vacation. Your mention of the correct list to subscribe to invited me to
> subscribe again.

Thanks.  To correct my earlier post (didn't seem quite right, but
I had to think about it), the reason I try not to post the full URL
to the mailman-owner mailing list, and the reason it's not listed when
you browse "http://lists.svlug.org/lists/listinfo", is _not_ to
foil spambots doing harvesting.  (Well, sort of not.  I'll get to that.)

Once again, the URL of that mailing list, with a break inserted into it
manually, is http://lists.svlug.org/lists/listinfo/ mailman-owner/ .
If you look at the archives, you'll see that it holds copies of all
"[listname] post from [address] needs approval" and other administrative
notices (e.g., "Uncaught bounce notification" and "Auto-discard
notification") for all the other mailing lists.  

There are two reasons I try to avoid posting that link, unobscured:  

1.  The mailman-owner's listinfo page includes (as usual for Mailman
listinfo pages) the direct posting address for the mailing list.
Having that page be Web spider-able means the mailman-owner mailing list
will get more _direct_ spam sent to it explicitly.  So, we trivially 
obscure the page's presence, to reduce the direct hits owing solely to
the mailto: link.   Ordinarily, I put no stock whatsoever in hiding from
spammers, but in this case, the mailing list is strictly administrative
and has no discussions or points of contact we want to be public.

2.  We want to avoid rewarded spammers whose posts get enshrined in
mailman-owner's HTML archive by lavishing SVLUG's page rank on their
spam postings.  Making the listinfo page unadvertised means the 
archived spam shouldn't get indexed by search engines.

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