[volunteers] (forw) How to be kind to the listadmin

[Mark Weisler]

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Rick Moen wrote:
> FYI.
> 
> ----- Forwarded message from Rick Moen <rick at linuxmafia.com> -----
> 
> Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 12:13:47 -0700
> From: Rick Moen <rick at linuxmafia.com>
> To: Skip Evans <skip at bigskypenguin.com>
> Subject: How to be kind to the listadmin
> 
> Hi, Skip.  I've noticed that the following seems to happen a great deal:
> 
> 1.  You post to svlug at lists.svlug.org, not noticing that you're
> posting from one of your alternate, non-subscribed addresses 
> (which is perfectly OK, mind you; I'm not complaining).
> 
> 2.  You receive a notice that the post is held for listadmin approval
> because it was from a non-subscribed address.  The notice includes a
> URL you can visit to cancel the posting.
> 
> 3.  You don't visit that URL, but rather ignore it and re-post the 
> message from skip at bigskypenguin.com (your subscribed address).
> 
> 4.  Some hours later, I'm reading personal mail and see a Mailman
> notice to me as listadmin, letting me know there's something from you in
> the held queue, detained because it was from a non-subscribed address.
> I fire up a Web browser, visit the admin queue, and spend five minutes
> composing a nice, detailed explanation of what happened to your held
> post, along with the suggestion that you subscribe your alternate
> addresses and set "nomail" for them, so the problem will not recur,
> i.e., so future messages from those addresses will go straight through.
> (At this point, I'm not yet reading new mailing list mail, so I'm not 
> aware that you've ignored the held message and re-posted.)
> 
> My nice, detailed, personalised explanation goes back to you atop a
> Mailman "reject" notice for the held copy -- for your convenience in
> case you want to re-post.
> 
> You ignore the explanation.  You ignore the suggestion.
> 
> 5.  A short while later, I see that you re-posted your message, 
> and didn't bother cancelling the held posting, meaning my care in 
> scrupulously handling and explaining the held post was wasted,
> especially since you ignored my suggestion.
> 
> 
> This _entire_ (above) cycle repeats every few days -- and has been going
> on as long as I can remember you being on the mailing list.  You are by
> far my biggest recurring problem, in that regard.
> 
> 
> I have a suggestion.  Make that a request, if you like:  Go right now to
> http://lists.svlug.org/lists/listinfo/svlug .  For each of your various
> alternate addresses, fill out the "Subscribing to svlug" form.  Then,
> for each, use the "change your subscription options" field at the bottom
> of the page, to enter the options subpage and set the "nomail" option.
> Save, return to http://lists.svlug.org/lists/listinfo/svlug .  Repeat 
> until you've subscribed (and set "nomail" for) all of your
> occasionally-used alternate addresses.
> 
> That will make my life more pleasant, and make your life easier.
> 
> 
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> 
Well, two days have past since you posted your suggestions and I believe
I am the first to respond. Thanks for your suggestions and detailed
explanation. I intend to follow your suggestions in this list and others
and will point people to this thread on occasion. Etiquette counts.
Mark


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