[volunteers] Officers mailing list

[Edward Cherlin]

On Jan 24, 2008 6:26 PM, Rick Moen <rick at linuxmafia.com> wrote:
> Quoting Edward Cherlin (echerlin at gmail.com):
>
> > Would someone put Lisa Corsetti on the officers mailing list?
>
> Speaking solely for myself, it's OK by _me_ if Lisa or any other SVLUG
> volunteer wants to be on that now-pointless[1] thing

Oh, I don't know. A number of past officers are on it, although Paul
has set himself not to receive mail from it. I will inquire whether
they are willing to be consulted.

> -- though, last I
> heard, it had basically a whole lot of nothing in it.  However, I have
> to warn that the next president or VP (whoever those may end up being)
> may countermand that.

As far as I know, I am effectively President, at least until the next
meeting, where I intend to put the question to the membership (and
not, as in recent experience, put the membership to the question).

If anybody has a contrary opinion, let's hear it.

> However, it's simply really bad netiquette for people to be "put" on
> mailing lists.

In general, I agree with you. In this case, it is part of the job to
which she has been appointed but not yet approved. It seems to me
perfectly reasonable to add her under the circumstances, but it is of
course not necessary.

> There are other and much better ways.  In the case of
> "Officers", Lisa can simply send in a subscription request on the
> "Officers" listinfo page.  (See instructions on svlug at .)  That request
> will be held for listadmin approval.  If I see a consequent admin
> request from Lisa or any other such person, I'd approve it if Paul
> Reiber (or some other person with listadmin access) doesn't process the
> request first.

No problem. Has Paul taken himself off listadminning? If not, would
you remove him?

> > Also, what is the president at ... password? Is it set to go to me yet?
>
> I'm not sure I understand the question.  There is a system mail alias
> called "president".  Please see my recent reply to Paul Reiber on
> Web-Team, where I responded to his request by repointing that alias to
> "volunteers", for now.
>
> It should, of course, be repointed a second time to point to the
> preferred mailbox of the next SVLUG president.  That could be you, or it
> could be Alvin (if I understand his recent posts correctly, about
> running), or Bruce Coston, or someone else who hasn't declared, yet.

Agreed. Would you be willing to point it at me and Lisa until then?

> There is not shell login named "president", if that's what you're asking
> about.

The password for accessing that account on the list page.

http://lists.svlug.org/lists/options/officers/president--at--svlug.org

> (Above is of course my view, and other admins you might be addressing
> your question to might well have different views.  I'm just picturing
> Bruce, Alvin, or some other candidate asking me why I unilaterally
> ignored their candidacies, and realised I have no good answer.  If that
> seems highhanded for any reason, imagine your and Bruce's situations
> to be reversed, and reconsider.)

No, I agree entirely. Although I would have expected one of them to
say something by now, if they wanted to. I'm not ignoring potential
candidacies, and I fully intend to raise the issue at the next
meeting. I don't wish to be President *solely* by Paul's action.

Well, folks, do we have any other nominations? Please? I never really
wanted this position, you know. Lisa? Would you like to swap places,
so we can have our first female President?

Does anybody mind me acting like the appointed acting/interim
President until we can actually elect somebody, whether me or anybody
else?

Oh, yes. Would somebody put on the calendar for the next meeting
something to the effect that we will be discussing the future of
SVLUG, and holding an election? No technical presentation unless we
finish early, in which case someone, possibly I, can improvise. Or we
can have a general conversation, Q&A from all those present, to all of
our resident experts. Unless somebody proposes a Better Idea[TM].

> [1] Actually, of late, it's been _worse_ than pointless, since numerous
> members have tried to contact it, and encountered non-response only, having
> no idea that their e-mails were, in fact, being autodiscarded.  I've
> tried to ameliorate this debacle by putting the key paragraph on the
> listinfo page into bold text, but it isn't 100% successful.

I assume that people just send mail without reading the page. Are
people at least notified that they can't post?
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Edward Cherlin
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