[volunteers] Feb 2008 meeting

[Darlene Wallach]

Heather Stern wrote:
> It is not appropriate for any one volunteer to cancel on a speaker who has
> accepted unless the meeting-host site hs cancelled on us.  It's
> unprofessional

I did not say to cancel, I said to not invite, there is a
difference.

> 
> To my knowledge, neither Symantec nor its V-cafe have bailed on SVLUG.
> 
> It also makes zero sense to demand a vote-of-confidence and then make sure
> that the people who *only* come to physical meetings are prevented from
> voting.  Nevermind whether it's powerless and lacks even the teeth to
> pretend to it if nobody is willing to stick to a definition of what the
> title means or step up to the plate and replace him at it.  I realize 
> some countries are into that sort of thing, changing as the winds go to
> preserve whatever the current "power base" is, deliberately disenfranchising
> their unfavorite voters, and making moves to please the press.

It seems to me that the people who were physically present
were the only people who had the opportunity/option to vote
for/against Paul Reiber as president of SVLUG. Note: Given I
had seen the state he was in, I did not vote for Paul Reiber
as president. Given what he has done in his term, I am very
sorry I didn't vociferously oppose his nomination when I saw
the condition he came to an SVLUG meeting to announce his
candidacy.


> 
> There's no 'power base' here worth fighting for and the fighting itself is
> getting old.
> 
> There's dozens++ of flavors of Linux but everyone can agree that it's Linux
> without specialty meetings.  None of this is about Linux anyway.  But we can
> borrow from that small bit of sanity - if the kernel boots, it's Linux.  If
> the meetings happen (with or without angst) then SVLUG is a meeting group.
> 
> If the speaker speaks on a Linux topic, I'd rather hear him than any of us
> volunteers at all, that being what imo the SVLUG general meetings are
> actually for.  Some bit of tradition normally calls for the speakers to be
> introduced by someone, but some speakers are just as happy to intriduce
> themselves.  

The speakers also should be treated with dignity and respect.
I have been embarrassed and ashamed at the way Paul Reiber has
behaved at SVLUG general meetings:
  - having a recognized odor on his breath
  - engaging in conversations with other people while the
    speaker is giving their presentation - very disrespectful!
  - putting the speaker on the spot during their presentation
    by asking what the speaker can give for free to SVLUG in the
    way of products and or services - 100% inappropriate!
> 
> p.s. Yes I know, it's top posting.  Live with it;  I'm at work, but this
>      seemed to be worth an immediate reply.
> 
> p.p.s this is my opinion and everyone else is welcome to their own.  I just
>       think bloodletting isn't a win if what you want is peace instead of 
>       pieces.
> 
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> On Wed, Jan 23, 2008 at 12:20:08PM -0800, Darlene Wallach wrote:
>> Aniruddha Mulay wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> Yesterday, Dan Kegel (project: Zumastor also search for C10K problem) got
>>> back to me saying that he won't be able to present at the Feb 2008 meeting.
>>>
>>> I have already written to few other potential speakers but as of now, we do
>>> *not* have a confirmed speaker for the Feb 2008 meeting.
>>> --
>>>
>>> After a lull of few weeks, the svlug lists are once again active - mostly
>>> for the *non-technical* issues.
>>>
>>> May be we should use the Feb 2008 slot to hash out all the political issues.
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> (Ani)ruddha Mulay
>>>
>>>
>> I think it is in the best interest of SVLUG to *not*
>> invite a speaker until we get the current administration
>> issue resolved.
>>
>> I concur with Marc Merlin - I call for a vote of no
>> confidence in the current Paul Reiber administration. I
>> call on Paul Reiber to step down in the best interest of
>> SVLUG.
>>
>> It does not appear that Paul Reiber is listening to anyone
>> but himself.
>>
>> Darlene Wallach
>>
>>
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