[volunteers] Fwd: mail problems?

[Rick Moen]

Quoting David Hummel (lemmuh at gmail.com):

> No response...

The pity of it is, the Web Team's below-cited offer of Dec. 20 was not
accepted.



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Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 18:00:07 -0800
From: Rick Moen <rick at linuxmafia.com>
To: Paul Reiber <reiber at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: vacation

Quoting Paul Reiber (reiber at gmail.com):

> Can I count on you for mailman list admin while I'm gone for the
> holidays?  If not, I'll put out a general call on the volunteers
> list... but my hope is that we don't need to go there.
>
> Please let me know...
>
> Thanks,

My suggestion (which should solve that problem for you, permanently):

Along with other members of the Web Team, I resume mailing list admin,
applying technical management and only the policies documented on our
Web pages.  In doing so, those admins answer to you and to your
eventual VP.  (Their positions are at least theoretically appointive, so
they must answer to the elected officers.)  Any listadmin action by
anyone is fair game for questioning and discussion on Volunteers.

The part involving you is that you act _through_ the listadmins rather
than directly.  If you have a problem with what's going on with the
lists, you don't just bypass the listadmins and take direct action,
not on-list and not in private mail.  Instead, you talk to the admins,
and ask them to do what's needed.  (If the posted policies call for
action, I expect they'd do it.)  If you're unhappy with the listadmins,
you can replace them.  (They're appointive.)

The key part is you agreeing to act through the listadmins, rather than
acting as one and (e.g.) inventing new rules on the fly.  If you agree,
then your listadmin problem can cease today, and not just during your
vacation.

I would _not_ post anything about this agreement in public:  The
understanding would remain private (unless you wish otherwise).

Just say "OK", and you're done.  ;->

(Note:  Because I currently am reportedly not in /etc/sudoers and don't
have the current root password, there are a few Mailman-related things I
can't do, such as restarting qrunner if it dies again, or relaunching
exim4.  If anything like that is needed, at present, I'll have to
telephone Lisa, or Daniel, or Mark W., or whoever.  Other than that, I
can handle anything else I can imagine being needed.)

By the way, Merry Christmas, and have a good time in Brazil.

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