[volunteers] The 2230 formerly (and presently) known as brie

Edward Cherlin echerlin at gmail.com
Tue Dec 18 15:55:48 PST 2007

On Dec 18, 2007 2:31 PM, Rick Moen <rick at linuxmafia.com> wrote:
> Quoting Warren Turkal (wturkal at gmail.com):
> > It has to do with basic human decency.
> Sir, I am strongly in favour of basic human decency, and if you see
> lack of civility, please point it out.

You're on. Rick, you have been very uncivil in this and other
conversations. I have sent you more observations off-list, and will
continue to do so. Civilly.

I personally am not in favor of "basic human decency". Humans are
moral idiots by nature, and require extensive help to become anything
else. Hardly anybody has the faintest idea of how any of this works. I
have become aware of how faint an idea I have, and would welcome
further enlightenment.

> > I am just not willing to overlook someone being so disrespectful.
> I do not respect arguments that plainly lack merit, and feel free to
> explain why.  It is evident that you feel that even arguments I feel
> are grossly lacking in merit -- and even utter hypocrisy like
> criticising me for assuming you were just arguing for incorporation and
> _then_ arguing for incorporation -- deserve respect.

You are assuming what is not in evidence. Stick to observable facts,
and drop the ad hominem attacks, which are uncivil, ignoble, and

> I do not concur.

Excellent! Keep it up. (No, really, I mean it. I always enjoy hearing
your contrary views on anything.)

Edward Cherlin
Speak software and carry a big cluestick.

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