[volunteers] SVLUG Mail Working?

[Mark Weisler]

On Monday 17 September 2007 18:25:16 Rick Moen wrote:
> Last Thursday, I wrote:
> > Quoting Mark Weisler (mark at weisler-saratoga-ca.us):
> >> Do we need more memory for the old server?  [Yeah, yeah, I was a
> >> manager...  ;.]
> >
> > No, not really.
> >
> > My own server gets by extremely reliably with _half_ as much RAM as the
> > legacy www.svlug.org server has, and the MTA / antispam setup is
> > remarkably similar, except that the software in question consists of
> > more-mature versions, with much, much more emphasis on intercepting spam
> > in the front-end of Exim4, the C-based, fast, small rulesets, before
> > handing off mail streams that survive those tests to (slow, bloated)
> > SpamAssassin (spamd).  _And_ those more-mature software versions aren't
> > wacked-out 2002-era betaware cobbled together by the Crazy Frenchman.
> >
> > What he did was really cutting-edge -- in 2002.  As an unfortunate
> > consequence of how he did it (e.g., non-deb-packaged source tarballs
> > used to build binaries in /var/local), it's in practice completely
> > unmaintainable.
>
> So, that reminds me:  I just wanted to review the server migration plan,
> because I suspect we might've gone off in a strange direction again.
>
> svlug.svlug.org = legacy host, relies on a single ancient IDE drive,
>    is at least now backed up (thanks to Mark).  Hosted at via.net.
>    Funky 2U short chassis, 512 MB RAM.  Currently has DNS names
>    "www.svlug.org", "lists.svlug.org", and "svlug.org".   IP
>    157.22.20.227.
>
> "gruyere" = linode virthost, IP 64.62.190.98, 8192 MB disk (originally
>    3072 MB, and will need repartitioning to use the extra).  Was originally
>    limited to 80MB RAM, but Lisa Corsetti talked to them and got it upped
>    to 256MB.  Has DNS name "ns1.svlug.org" (serving as primary DNS
>    nameserver).  Slated to get "www.svlug.org" migrated to it, housing
>    the MoinMoin wiki-format replacement Web site Heather and I worked
>    so long and hard on.[1]  (Migration stage 1.)
>
> "brie" = SVLUG's "new" [sic] VA Linux Systems model 2230 with outboard
>    SCSI RAID array.  512 MB RAM.  _Was_ at Via.net (IP 157.22.20.228),
>     but I hear that Paul recently had it at Heather's house after some
>    meltdown(?).  Slated to house a hot-backup copy of the Web site,
>    that can be brought online quickly via DNS repointing, if needed.
>    Slated to get DNS names "lists.svlug.org" and "svlug.org" pointed to
>    it, _after_ the separate Web-site migration described above.
>    (Migration stage 2.)
>
> Having completed migration stage 2, we'll finally be able to reformat
> and repurpose the now-unfixably funky (as to software) and brittle (as
> to hardware) legacy host.
>
> I might have missed some change of plan.  (This is Paul and Mark's baby,
> ultimately.)  Please advise if I missed something.
>
> If I didn't, then I'm a little puzzled about the current work on "brie".
> Shouldn't the current priority be getting the MoinMoin content served up
> by the lighttpd installation on "grueyere" that Paul says he debugged
> in early 2007?  (That would be migration stage 1.)
>
> Stage 1's really important, because it's the hard part.  I can move the
> SMTP and mailing lists over a weekend, once we have that.
>
> So:  Paul?  Mark?  Heather?  Where are we?  What's up with the "brie" work?
Hi All,
Thanks Rick for the recap and work in support of SVLUG. I don't know about any 
work on brie. I am not aware of any change in plans.

So, would all "production" [A] be on Linode/gruyere with replication to brie 
so that, in the event of a problem, we could re-point SVLUG activities to 
brie?

[A] Production services being, I think, mail, web, and DNS.
>
>
> [1] Contents of our prototype on http://gemini.starshine.org/SVLUG/
> were once current, and _nearly_ complete as to pages reimplemented in
> wiki format.  They're still not 100% populated, but now have the
> additional task of needing updating to match subsequent changes
> all around the legacy site.
>
> (I've never been sold on the notion of wikis solving the problem of not
> enough people helping maintain our site.  That was J. Paul Reed's idea;
> I still think it's a crock, but it's not my call.)


-- 
Mark Weisler 
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