[Volunteers] More broken Yahoo forwards on SVLUG list: [notify@yahoogroups.com: Message to FreeLecture group not approved]
William R Ward
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>From: "Karsten M. Self" <kmself at ix.netcom.com>
>Subject: Re: [svlug] Distro help
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>on Sat, May 14, 2005 at 09:43:08PM -0700, Ryman (rymanle at gmail.com) wrote:
>> Hi guys, I'm new to linux. I'm currently running Ubuntu but somehow It
>> keep freezing and stuffs.=20
>
>In all likelihood this is indedendent of your distro.
>
>If anything, Ubunut is among your better choices. It offers the wealth
>of packages (with 'universe' sources selected) and ease of installation
>& maintenance of Debian, with a slightly more polished desktop.
>
>> I think there is something wrong with my HD.
>
>Don't think. Research.
>
>Your choices are CPU, disk and memory.
>
> - Check system logs. /var/log/syslog, /var/log/messages,
> /var/log/kern.log are good starting places.
>
> - Check dmesg output: 'dmesg' (probably piped through 'less'). Look
> for any system errors.
>
> - How much memory and swap do you have? GNU/Linux *can* run in as
> little as 12-16 MiB. I wouldn't try a modern desktop (GNOME,
> Firefox, OpenOffice.org) on anything less than 128 MiB, and have 1
> GiB on my own box. Command to view memory usage is 'free'. I
> recommend ~2x - 3x RAM for swap, there was an extensive discussion
> in this list recently, check archives.
>
> - Is your disk properly tuned? IIRC Ubuntu does this out-of-the-box,
> but you should check 'hdparm /dev/hda' (assuming 1st IDE primary
> master disk), which may look something like this. Check /etc/fstab
> or /proc/mounts for your actual disk partitions.
>
> /dev/hda:
> multcount =3D 0 (off)
> IO_support =3D 0 (default 16-bit)
> unmaskirq =3D 0 (off)
> * using_dma =3D 1 (on)
> keepsettings =3D 0 (off)
> readonly =3D 0 (off)
> readahead =3D 256 (on)
> geometry =3D 38760/16/63, sectors =3D 39070080, start =3D 0
>
> I've starred the "using_dma" value. It's going to make the biggest
> difference on your disk performance.
>
> - What's your actuatual disk performance? 'hdparm -tT /dev/hda'
> should tell you. Values > 10 MB/s for buffered *disk* (_not_
> cache) reads are good, 40+ is preferable. Anything less than this
> indicates very old or very slow disks. My own systems tend to run
> contended, values range from ~3 MB/s to ~15 MB/s. Current:
>
> $ sudo hdparm -tT /dev/hda
> /dev/hda:
> Timing cached reads: 472 MB in 2.01 seconds =3D 234.28 MB/sec
> Timing buffered disk reads: 14 MB in 4.03 seconds =3D 3.47 MB=
>/sec
>
> - Install 'smartmontools' and read the 'smartctl' manpages for
> getting additional information on disk health. This can help
> identify issues with disk conditions.
>
> - Monitor your use of disk and swap. Run the following for a half
> hour or so and watch output:
>
> vmstat 10 | tee vmstat.log # monitors virtual memory subsystem
> iostat 10 | tee iostat.log # monitors IO subsystem
>
> 'tee' sends output to both your terminal (stdout) and the named
> file (vmstat.log or iostat.log here).
>
> Lots of disk activity, lots of swap activity, and/or high iowait
> values will indicate that you're swapping extensively and/or are
> using disk excessively. First condition suggests increasing system
> memory, second suggests finding processes writing to disk and
> stopping or reconfiguring them to do less IO.
>
>> Is there any program to check it ? I also wonder what is other distro
>> that you guys recommend for newbie.=20
>
>Ubuntu is a very good, solid choice, stick with it.
>
>
>Peace.
>
>--=20
>Karsten M. Self <kmself at ix.netcom.com> http://kmself.home.netcom.com=
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> "programmer"
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