[Volunteers] More broken Yahoo forwards on SVLUG list: [notify@yahoogroups.com: Message to FreeLecture group not approved]

William R Ward bill at svlug.org
Wed Jun 8 19:03:14 PDT 2005


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Karsten M. Self writes:
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>From: "Karsten M. Self" <kmself at ix.netcom.com>
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>on Sat, May 14, 2005 at 09:43:08PM -0700, Ryman (rymanle at gmail.com) wrote:
>> Hi guys, I'm new to linux. I'm currently running Ubuntu but somehow It
>> keep freezing and stuffs.=20
>
>In  all likelihood this is indedendent of your distro.
>
>If anything, Ubunut is among your better choices.  It offers the wealth
>of packages (with 'universe' sources selected) and ease of installation
>& maintenance of Debian, with a slightly more polished desktop.
>
>> I think there is something wrong with my HD.
>
>Don't think.  Research.
>
>Your choices are CPU, disk and memory.
>
>  - Check system logs.  /var/log/syslog, /var/log/messages,
>    /var/log/kern.log are good starting places.
>
>  - Check dmesg output:  'dmesg' (probably piped through 'less').  Look
>    for any system errors.
>
>  - How much memory and swap do you have?  GNU/Linux *can* run in as
>    little as 12-16 MiB.  I wouldn't try a modern desktop (GNOME,
>    Firefox, OpenOffice.org) on anything less than 128 MiB, and have 1
>    GiB on my own box.  Command to view memory usage is 'free'.  I
>    recommend ~2x - 3x RAM for swap, there was an extensive discussion
>    in this list recently, check archives.
>
>  - Is your disk properly tuned?  IIRC Ubuntu does this out-of-the-box,
>    but you should check 'hdparm /dev/hda' (assuming 1st IDE primary
>    master disk), which may look something like this.  Check /etc/fstab
>    or /proc/mounts for your actual disk partitions.
>
>        /dev/hda:
>         multcount    =3D  0 (off)
>         IO_support   =3D  0 (default 16-bit)
>         unmaskirq    =3D  0 (off)
>      *  using_dma    =3D  1 (on)
>         keepsettings =3D  0 (off)
>         readonly     =3D  0 (off)
>         readahead    =3D 256 (on)
>         geometry     =3D 38760/16/63, sectors =3D 39070080, start =3D 0
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>     I've starred the "using_dma" value.  It's going to make the biggest
>     difference on your disk performance.
>
>   - What's your actuatual disk performance?  'hdparm -tT /dev/hda'
>     should tell you.  Values > 10 MB/s for buffered *disk* (_not_
>     cache) reads are good, 40+ is preferable.  Anything less than this
>     indicates very old or very slow disks.  My own systems tend to run
>     contended, values range from ~3 MB/s to ~15 MB/s.  Current:
>
>        $ sudo hdparm -tT /dev/hda
>        /dev/hda:
>         Timing cached reads:   472 MB in  2.01 seconds =3D 234.28 MB/sec
>         Timing buffered disk reads:   14 MB in  4.03 seconds =3D   3.47 MB=
>/sec
>
>   - Install 'smartmontools' and read the 'smartctl' manpages for
>     getting additional information on disk health.  This can help
>     identify issues with disk conditions.
>
>   - Monitor your use of disk and swap.  Run the following for a half
>     hour or so and watch output:
>
>         vmstat 10 | tee vmstat.log     # monitors virtual memory subsystem
>         iostat 10 | tee iostat.log     # monitors IO subsystem
>
>     'tee' sends output to both your terminal (stdout) and the named
>     file (vmstat.log or iostat.log here).
>
>     Lots of disk activity, lots of swap activity, and/or high iowait
>     values will indicate that you're swapping extensively and/or are
>     using disk excessively.  First condition suggests increasing system
>     memory, second suggests finding processes writing to disk and
>     stopping or reconfiguring them to do less IO.
>
>> Is there any program to check it ? I also wonder what is other distro
>> that you guys recommend for newbie.=20
>
>Ubuntu is a very good, solid choice, stick with it.
>
>
>Peace.
>
>--=20
>Karsten M. Self <kmself at ix.netcom.com>        http://kmself.home.netcom.com=
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>Karsten M. Self <kmself at ix.netcom.com>        http://kmself.home.netcom.com/
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