[svlug] Accountability Software.

[Don Marti]

begin Zack Zatkin-Gold quotation of Thu, May 05, 2016 at 04:12:36PM -0400:
> 
> If there is a particular social issue that needs to be addressed here,
> one should not look to technical solutions to solve it, as they are
> almost always doomed to fail.

Software can be designed to encourage users to develop
bad habits.  There's big money in that.

Many free-to-play games can get some individual users
to spend $7,000-$10,000.

Or what about slot machines, or Facebook, or Twitter?

Software can also be designed to help users develop
good habits (or to be NPOV about it, habits that they
consistently desire to form even when not engaged in
the behavior.)

It could be staying off Reddit, or playing less
"2048", or whatever.  


> > On May 5, 2016, at 15:54, Rick Moen <rick at linuxmafia.com> wrote:
> > 
> > Quoting Michael C. Robinson (plug_1 at robinson-west.com):
> > 
> >> Rick, I'm not interested in the politics of accountability where saying
> >> that I want to monitor what children are surfing to keep them out of
> >> pornography is a statement of intent, not a technical one.
> > 
> > Nor was I interested in the politics of so-called 'accountability'.
> > 
> > Nor _had_ I attributed, upthread, any specific intent to whatever your
> > personal use-case is.  That is your invention, and I do not appreciate
> > the misrepresentation of fact.
> > 
> > So, looks like you paid no real attention to my having handed you the
> > solution to your question as posed.  So, not only do you frame questions
> > so wretchedly badly that people make good-faith guesses that 'git' is
> > the corret answer, but also you ignore a full answer from someone who
> > took the extra trouble to figure out the missing context, and attribute
> > false claims to the helper.
> > 
> > OK, thanks for clarifying that you're not only a total loss at seeking
> > help, but also then refuse it when it reaches you anyway, and are
> > basically an ingrate about attempts to assist you.
> > 
> > 
> >> I'm more interested in why Covenant Eyes which makes accountability
> >> software for Windows insists that they can't port it to Linux when they
> >> have an Android port?
> > 
> > If you'd wanted to know _that_, you should have asked it the first time.
> > But that's not what you asked.
> > 
> >> I'm also interested in accountability pal, an open source project that
> >> needs developers.  Technically speaking, can accountability pal compete
> >> with the proprietary Covenant Eyes?
> > 
> > Good luck getting a market competitive analysis of two problems nobody
> > else particularly cares about on a Linux user group mailing list.
> > You'll need it.
> > 
> >> Dansguardian is not accurate enough for my taste and it only filters,
> >> it does not report.
> > 
> > Again, if you didn't bother to make your requirements clear the first
> > time, that means you failed as a querent.  Ask better, or get used to
> > being killfiled and ignored.
> > 
> > If I cared, I'd point out that getting reporting out of Dansguardian or
> > out of ancillary proxy/cache software is not brain surgery.  Karsten
> > Self did it with no difficulty at the Napa kids' computing lab, for
> > example.
> > 
> >>  In the world of wifi hotspots and 4g networks,  you won't be behind
> >> Dansguardian most of the time.
> > 
> > Sounds like your problem, and very much not mine.  And not the problem
> > of a Linux user group, either.
> > 
> > 
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