[svlug] Devuan

Josef Grosch jgrosch at gmail.com
Fri Jul 8 17:07:24 PDT 2016

On 07/07/2016 10:51 PM, Rick Moen wrote:
> Quoting Josef Grosch (jgrosch at gmail.com):
>> I've recently been playing around with Devuan. Does anyone have any
>> experience with Devuan ? Good or bad.
> No direct experience, but I've been following the project with interest
> from its beginning.
>> At work I've spent the last week dealing with systemd insistence on
>> not playing well with other, that and the fact that LinuxMint 18 has
>> been released with systemd as the default is causing me to look around
>> for a Debian based Linux that has not been infected with systemd. 
> Depending on the extent of your devotion to GNOME, MATE, Cinnamon, KDE,
> and/or Razor-qt[1], and to NetworkManager, the best answer might be
> 'Debian'.  
> I've investigated using a Debian 8 'Jessie' scratch system, and written
> up my results here:
> http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Debian/openrc-conversion.html
> Page includes tested, detailed instructions for replacing systemd with
> OpenRC and making sure systemd cannot return.  And, as clarified in my
> footnotes, you should also be able to use the same method to adopt any
> of the _other_ inits packaged by Debian:   sysvinit, upstart, or runit.
> I just happen to really like OpenRC, which is BSD-derived.
> [1] Those DE's big metapackages depend on systemd because one or two
> DE packages comprising the metapackage do.  Therefore, you can install 
> _substantively_ all of the DE by installing its constituent packages
> (and still not pull in systemd), just not the whole kitchen sink.

A quick test shows that Rick's instructions work pretty well. I've tried
it with Debian 8.5 as a server, ie. no X or Desktop Environment. OpenRC
seems to work pretty well. Thanks Rick.


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