[svlug] This mess of a Subject header is at least shorter than Ivan's

Rick Moen rick at svlug.org
Fri Jan 2 07:08:40 PST 2015

Ivan Sergio Borgonovo wrote:

> Many people more knowledgeable than me on this topic, in pretty
> successful positions, decided it was a better thing than sysvinit.
> Systemd is surely more complicated than sysvinit
> a much earlier log than sysinit
> sysvinit is actually a reasonably old system debt
> for Linux and systemd is not the first attempt to improve it.

Remember back in the '90s and early 2000s, when noisy advocacy squads who
went around pushing Dan Bernstein's determinedly odd software made a point
of never comparing qmail against anything other than sendmail, and never
comparing djbdns against anything other than BIND?  That was a cheeesy
distraction from actually meaningful discussion, deliberately omitting
Postfix, Exim4, Courier-MTA, MaraDNS, NSD, PowerDNS, Unbound, and others --
and a big waste of time.

The similarity to comparing systemd - or, more meaningfully, the init portion
of systemd -- against nothing but SysVInit is left as an exercise for the

Please read the 'sysvinit: the eternal red herring' section of
http://uselessd.darknedgy.net/ProSystemdAntiSystemd/ before wasting
everyone's time with this sort of screed again.

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