[svlug] Desktop software and systems management

Steve Litt slitt at troubleshooters.com
Thu Nov 20 19:46:40 PST 2014

On Thu, 20 Nov 2014 11:49:46 -0700
Akkana Peck <akkana at shallowsky.com> wrote:

> Reading Rick's article, and especially his conclusions, I found
> myself thinking: I do that (run a system without most of the code
> hairball he describes) -- but it means accepting that if I hit
> problems, there will be no documentation, no support, no sympathy,
> and maybe no fix unless I reverse-engineer what's happening and
> write a fix myself.  I wish there was a community for people who
> wanted to avoid that whole code hairball and discuss how Linux'
> underpinnings work.


> So of course I googled "modular debian" to find out what this group
> is ... but it looks like it's concerned only with the init system.

So far. That can change.


> I wish there was a general mailing list or IRC channel for people
> who want to avoid the whole hairball, not just systemd ... where
> people discuss issues like "What really happens when you suspend and
> resume, and how can you debug that process?" or "What are the
> low-level steps you actually need in order to establish a wi-fi
> connection?" Such a community would include init system issues,
> but that's really a tiny portion of the whole problem.

I would join such a community in a heartbeat.


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