[svlug] EFF Defense Organization 12/19 in Oakland,CA

[kevin dankwardt]

Thanks for the additional insight Karen. Going to a murder trial seems both
interesting and saddening.

On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 7:45 PM, Karen Shaeffer <shaeffer at neuralscape.com>
wrote:
>
> On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 05:53:22PM -0800, kevin dankwardt wrote:
> > Thanks Darlene.
>
> Hi Kevin,
>
> Yes, as Darlene says, the bailiff rules the courtroom, but the Judge sets
> the
> rules. I once sat through a very high profile murder trial in the Hayward
> Superior Court. And the Judge actually let an individual film much of the
> trial
> to be used in a documentary about the murder. One thing is for certain,
> once
> court is in session, no talking, no noise of any kind, no moving around,
> and no
> leaving or entering the court.
>
> Another issue you might want to consider is getting into the courtroom.
> Courtrooms
> are generally quite small with very limited seating. If it is a proceeding
> where
> a lot of folks are interested, it might be difficult to get in. The
> bailiff decides
> who gets in and who doesn't in such a case. If you suspect it might be
> difficult to
> get in, then getting there early and standing at the door might be your
> best bet.
>
> At that murder trial in Hayward, there was a huge crowd attempting to get
> in when
> the jury came back with verdicts. The vast majority of folks didn't get
> in. I was
> the last person to get in for the jury verdicts. The bailiff came out and
> said they
> could squeeze 10 members of the press in. And I just got at the end of the
> line and
> walked right in. The bailiff knew I wasn't with the press. But he let me
> in, because
> he knew I sat through much of the trial. I'll never forget that day in
> that court.
> It was intense, real life drama.
>
> enjoy,
> Karen
>
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 5:28 PM, Darlene Wallach <
> > freepalestin at dslextreme.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > This is Darlene Wallach
> > >
> > > On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 5:00 PM, kevin dankwardt
> > > <kevin.dankwardt at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Thanks Paul.
> > > >
> > > > I know it can get dull and boring at times in a courtroom. I guess I
> can
> > > > bring a paper notebook to write in and some papers to read.
> > > >
> > >
> > > The paper notebook to write in is not a problem or issue from my
> > > experience being in courtrooms doing court support for people, esp in
> > > Oakland. However, the bailiff rules the courtroom and some do not
> > > allow people to read, they want people paying attention to the
> > > proceedings so bring stuff to read but be prepared to be told to put
> > > it away.
> > >
> > > Just my $.02
> > >
> > > Darlene Wallach
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 4:54 PM, Paul Cubbage <oldestgeek at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> If you open a device during court, the bailiffs will stop you.
> > > >>
> > > >> Be true! Enjoy!
> > > >>
> > > >> Paul
> > > >>
> > > >> On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 4:24 PM, kevin dankwardt
> > > >> <kevin.dankwardt at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Wow, I had no idea this would be in Oakland. I may go!
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Looks like only a block from A BART stop, too.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Thanks a lot for the news.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Any idea if one can bring in a laptop so I can do a little work if
> > > things
> > > >>> get dull?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> -kevin
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 2:56 PM, Scott DuBois <sdubois at linux.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> For those who are interested or think they can make it:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> WHAT:
> > > >>>> Hearing on Motion for Partial Summary Judgment in Jewel v. NSA
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> WHEN:
> > > >>>> Friday December 19, 2014 at 9 AM
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> WHERE:
> > > >>>> United States District Court for the Northern District of
> California
> > > >>>> 1301 Clay Street
> > > >>>> Courtroom 5, 2nd Floor
> > > >>>> Oakland, CA 94612
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> https://supporters.eff.org/civicrm/mailing/view?reset=1&id=834
> > > >>>> --
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