[svlug] EFF Defense Organization 12/19 in Oakland,CA

[Karen Shaeffer]

On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 05:53:22PM -0800, kevin dankwardt wrote:
> Thanks Darlene.

Hi Kevin,

Yes, as Darlene says, the bailiff rules the courtroom, but the Judge sets the
rules. I once sat through a very high profile murder trial in the Hayward
Superior Court. And the Judge actually let an individual film much of the trial
to be used in a documentary about the murder. One thing is for certain, once
court is in session, no talking, no noise of any kind, no moving around, and no
leaving or entering the court.

Another issue you might want to consider is getting into the courtroom. Courtrooms
are generally quite small with very limited seating. If it is a proceeding where
a lot of folks are interested, it might be difficult to get in. The bailiff decides
who gets in and who doesn't in such a case. If you suspect it might be difficult to
get in, then getting there early and standing at the door might be your best bet.

At that murder trial in Hayward, there was a huge crowd attempting to get in when
the jury came back with verdicts. The vast majority of folks didn't get in. I was
the last person to get in for the jury verdicts. The bailiff came out and said they
could squeeze 10 members of the press in. And I just got at the end of the line and
walked right in. The bailiff knew I wasn't with the press. But he let me in, because
he knew I sat through much of the trial. I'll never forget that day in that court.
It was intense, real life drama.

enjoy,
Karen

> 
> On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 5:28 PM, Darlene Wallach <
> freepalestin at dslextreme.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > This is Darlene Wallach
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 5:00 PM, kevin dankwardt
> > <kevin.dankwardt at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Thanks Paul.
> > >
> > > I know it can get dull and boring at times in a courtroom. I guess I can
> > > bring a paper notebook to write in and some papers to read.
> > >
> >
> > The paper notebook to write in is not a problem or issue from my
> > experience being in courtrooms doing court support for people, esp in
> > Oakland. However, the bailiff rules the courtroom and some do not
> > allow people to read, they want people paying attention to the
> > proceedings so bring stuff to read but be prepared to be told to put
> > it away.
> >
> > Just my $.02
> >
> > Darlene Wallach
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 4:54 PM, Paul Cubbage <oldestgeek at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> If you open a device during court, the bailiffs will stop you.
> > >>
> > >> Be true! Enjoy!
> > >>
> > >> Paul
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 4:24 PM, kevin dankwardt
> > >> <kevin.dankwardt at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Wow, I had no idea this would be in Oakland. I may go!
> > >>>
> > >>> Looks like only a block from A BART stop, too.
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks a lot for the news.
> > >>>
> > >>> Any idea if one can bring in a laptop so I can do a little work if
> > things
> > >>> get dull?
> > >>>
> > >>> -kevin
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 2:56 PM, Scott DuBois <sdubois at linux.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> For those who are interested or think they can make it:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> WHAT:
> > >>>> Hearing on Motion for Partial Summary Judgment in Jewel v. NSA
> > >>>>
> > >>>> WHEN:
> > >>>> Friday December 19, 2014 at 9 AM
> > >>>>
> > >>>> WHERE:
> > >>>> United States District Court for the Northern District of California
> > >>>> 1301 Clay Street
> > >>>> Courtroom 5, 2nd Floor
> > >>>> Oakland, CA 94612
> > >>>>
> > >>>> https://supporters.eff.org/civicrm/mailing/view?reset=1&id=834
> > >>>> --
> > >>>> Scott DuBois BSIT
> > >>>> Linux Advocate
> > >>>> EFF ID: 1731778
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> > >>>>
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