[svlug] Ubuntu 10.04 Installfest at Noisebridge (San Francisco), Sunday May 30th, 11-5

[Rick Moen]

Quoting Robert Hajime Lanning (lanning at lanning.cc):

> On 05/27/10 17:59, Rick Moen wrote:
> > Quoting Robert Hajime Lanning (lanning at lanning.cc):
> > 
> >> You didn't read _who_ was putting on the installfest...
> > 
> > OK, I'll take your word for that, though I could have sworn I read that
> > it was being put on by California Ubuntu volunteers and Noisebridge.
> > But if you say so, I guess I must have gotten that wrong.
> 
> I think the issue is with the name.

I think there's nothing preventing volunteers from the Linux community 
from properly reflecting the diversity, range, and choice that is our
inheritance.

Can we be realistic for a moment?  I've seen what Canonical Ltd.
provides in the way of infrastructure to its 'teams'.  It's really 
for all intents and purposes a zero-money deal for everyone but the very
few on the corporate payroll, and that's certainly not Grant, etc., who
to the contrary are generous and (necessarily) self-reliant volunteers.

I know Grant, and know that he's a very capable person.  If you told me
that he needed to stress installing Ubuntu-only at a volunteer event
because that's where his 'expertise lies' (per Elizabeth), I'd say,
c'mon, pull the other one.  This one has bells on.


And, y'know, Robert, I don't mind at all that both you and Bill Ward are
among those who will, almost without fail, instinctively and immediately
post the opposite viewpoint to pretty much anything I write here.  It's
just one of those droll Internet things.  As I like to say, I have only
to say 'I like herring' on the Internet, and can instantly summon every
herring-hater for a thousand miles by merely doing that.  It's like
magic.


What I actually find annoying is rhetorical cheap tricks like:

Robert Hajime Lanning>  You didn't read _who_ was putting on the
                        installfest.

  (Ah, thank you for the solution.  Solely a vision problem,
  then, and we can ignore everything else I said.)

Bill Ward>  My guess is the people putting it on are enthusiastic about
            Ubuntu - what's wrong with that?

  (Boy, he sure told _me_, right?  That'll teach me to post that it's
  Bad and Wrong to be enthusiastic about Ubuntu.)

This business of ignoring what I said and attempting to sidetrack
onto something else is pretty tedious.  It'd be nice to get those 
two minutes back, really.