[svlug] [linux-elitists] Proposal: Roster accessible to subscribers

James Sparenberg james at linuxrebel.org
Thu Mar 26 20:18:04 PST 2009


Rick Moen wrote:
> Quoting Tilghman Lesher (zgp-org at the-tilghman.com):
>
>   
>> Yes, but asking users to take action to avoid exposing their addresses
>> isn't elitism -- it's the lowest form of human activity, mainly
>> advanced by the Internet marketers and spammers.
>>     
>
> And, no doubt, if the telcos had negligently -- NOT as a result of a
> "commitment" as you and Mr. Anderson would apparently have it -- failed 
> to publish telephone directories for a decade, you'd no doubt think them
> honour bound to secure explicit permission from each customer before
> publishing their telephone numbers.
>
> (Historical tidbit:  It actually _was_ the case in the Soviet Union that
> they didn't publish telephone books.  I'm sure the Russian Federation
> have had their own little Tilghman Leshers and D. Joe Andersons, trying to
> convince everyone that ceasing that practice was immoral.)
>
> Most fundamentally, you are buying into Joe Anderson's fallacy, that Don
> undertook a trust, when in fact he happened, on his own, to set a
> configuration option that is neither normally expected nor the software
> default.
>
>   
>> I also don't really care what Don decides to do with regards to this
>> policy...
>>     
>
> So, great:  We have about eight people who've said they don't object to
> their addresses being default-shown (with an option to toggle "hidden")
> in a subscriber-viewable roster.  Of those, two express theoretical
> moral outrage on behalf of theoretically objecting subscribers who have
> steadfastly failed, after being invited, to indicate their existence,
> even privately to the listadmin.
>
> Anyone else?
>
>   
<wry humor intended>
As one crow said to the other the juiciest worm is the most deeply 
hidden.  In some way shape or form Google removes ones anonymity without 
prejudice or compunction.  I subbit this link 
http://marc.info/?l=linux-elitists&m=101490605019853&w=2 as just a taste 
of what the great Google bot knows. ;)

James





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