[svlug] Fedora or Ubuntu for novis

Alan DuBoff aland at softorchestra.com
Sun Sep 21 10:25:33 PDT 2008


On Sun, 21 Sep 2008, Rick Moen wrote:

> No, I didn't say that.  (Hoping not to sound plaintive, but did you
> _read_ the page?

I believe I did, but let me check with myself and get back to 
you.:-)


> Also, how the hell did you arrive at the conclusion
> that "uncertain to achieve its intended effect" means "wouldn't stand
> up"?)

Well, you speculate on various points on points that have not 
been determined in a court of law, so it's not clear what the 
outcome would be. For that matter, the BSD license would appear 
to be one of the few software licenses that has actually stood 
up, and it does have a copyright.

> I said the outcome is difficult to predict

Right, and a prediction means it hasn't happened, nor does 
anyone know what the outcome will be until that has happened.

>> I question though, why it would not be sufficient for someone to
>> no longer take ownership?
>
> I'm afraid I don't understand the question.

I don't want anyone to own a piece of code, I want everyone to 
own it. I am not looking to evade any liability to avoid legal 
responsibility, but I want the code to be open and free.

Is it not possible in the world we live in to have truly open 
and free code?

> Um, that sounds like a non-sequitur conclusion, to me.  If an analogy
> would help, think about that 21' Victory slipping anchor and ramming
> Larry Ellison's yacht, a week after you nailed a dated plaque to your
> sloop's mast declaring that you wish that nobody henceforth is to ever
> own the vessel.

That sounds like kharma to me! *wink* (hoping you still have 
some humor;-)

But seriously, I am not trying to avoid legal responsibility, 
but I am thinking more in lines that Larry cut my anchor chain 
and claims I'm responsible. What I am saying is that he 
shouldn't have cut the anchor to begin with. I'm comfortable 
that my boat is in dry storage, if someone doesn't want to be 
liable for taking it out to sea, don't put it in the water to 
begin with.

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Alan DuBoff - Software Orchestration




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