[svlug] Possible to remove messages from archive?
einfeldt at gmail.com
Wed Jul 30 22:15:51 PDT 2008
On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 7:30 PM, Ron Atkins <ron.11235 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Many years ago, I got the same "thing" from "yours truly." Irritating as
> hell, if he shared my personal space. But he doesn't. He is a mentor.
Isn't it preferable, though, for mentors to be kind?
> He, and the others who manage SVLUG, have been in your shoes. They see
> your situation from _many_ perspectives, that's why people ask question
> The thing I don't grok about this list, after 6 or 8 (is that possible?)
> years of taking it in, is how intelligent people fail to bask in the
> enlightenment and joy of _perspective_ (and not the "feel good" crap
> that has stifled communications since time immemorial). Relish the
> opinion that sparks your adrenaline, challenge yourself to understand
> what _you have heard_. And practice caution when you presume to dictate
> how others should respond to you. This is a big world, we can all fit,
> if we remember (and respect), not only our similarities, but our
> differences too.
> I swear I could earn a PhD in Communications on my observations of the
> conversations between Rick, and his detractors. They are rich in
> substance, intellect, and EGO. And their defining quality is that they
> raise the bar on what SVLUG has to offer to members, and other LUG's.
> When you post here, you get the best of the best, the wimps don't last
> (hey, what happened to that Google host guy?).
To whom are your referring? I haven't known of any wimps coming to this
list from Google. I do think that successful people, such as Googler Warren
Turkal, are probably too busy to make time for lists that are needlessly
antagonistic. It's simply counterproductive.
> Learn by listening, that's the advice I suggest. Many (many), years ago,
> I tired of being dressed down on lists because an "I" wasn't dotted, or
> one dash was left off. Eventually, I learned that sometimes the process
> of growing, involves a little pain. Sharing that pain back, is called
> hurt, and possibly not warranted. Perhaps you might find some value
> integrating this advice into your perspective.
Our only strength is our collective efforts. I don't like to see sharp
comments on Linux lists because it erodes our only real asset --
Producer, The Digital Tipping Point
> Skip Evans wrote:
> > Rick and all,
> > I had no idea what it would take to remove a post:
> > a couple of simple mouse clicks on a web interface
> > or something more involved on a lower level.
> > That's why I didn't offer to pay anyone for it.
> > Had anyone said, "That's a bit of a tough job,
> > Skip. Paying someone for their time would be the
> > thing to do," I'd have gladly offered up whatever
> > was fair.
> > Your a real smart guy, Rick, and you really know
> > your stuff, and I've learned from your posts.
> > But sometimes I wish during your embryonic
> > developmental stage that gene that gives us the
> > ability deal with others less knowledgeable than
> > ourselves in certain areas with respect and
> > humility hadn't mutated itself into a worthless
> > microscopic pinhead of adenine, thymine, cytosine,
> > and guanine.
> > Love,
> > Skip
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