[svlug] Joomla and its discontents (was: Vote of no confidence in the current administration)

Paul Reiber reiber at gmail.com
Fri Jan 25 13:27:06 PST 2008


Yet another instance of inapropriate vitriolic criticism blended with
a show of technical wizardy, for the list to swallow and enjoy whilst
allowing the denigration of a helpful, interested, capable young man
who was too naive to know when to shut up.

Woo hoo!
-pbr

On Jan 25, 2008 4:32 AM, Rick Moen <rick at linuxmafia.com> wrote:
> Quoting Chris Miller (lordsauronthegreat at gmail.com):
>
> > Holy crud, it really does validate!
>
> > http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Ffsdev.net%2F
> > http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http%3A%2F%2Ffsdev.net%2F
>
> Golly gee wilikers, Batman!  If only that were relevant to what I said!  ;->
>
>
> In fairness, yes, Joomla 1.5 and later _is_ a massive improvement in
> standards-compliance.  And _mostly_ what I meant was, indeed, a comment
> on pre-1.5 output, which was _both_ bad _and_ non-W3C.
>
> Tapping the notional Sherman on the shoulder and using the notional
> Wayback Machine for a moment[1], you might recall that what I _actually_
> said was:
>
>    excruciatingly bad HTML output
>
> I said "bad"; you talked about W3C compliance.  See the problem?
>
> Not yet?  Well, try this, to really _look_ at the HTML output, and not
> merely feed it through a validator, as if what it _consists_ of didn't
> matter:
>
> $ script
> Script started, file is typescript
> $ telnet fsdev.net 80
> Trying 208.113.161.82...
> Connected to fsdev.net.
> Escape character is '^]'.
> GET / HTTP/1.0 [return]
> [return]
>
>
> ...and then, when it's done, Ctrl-C to close the "script" session,
> leaving session file "typescript" in CWD.  And then _look_ at that
> stuff.
>
>
> Except, on a bonus irony note, what you get at the moment is _this_:
>
> HTTP/1.1 200 OK
> Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 12:25:56 GMT
> Server: Apache/2.0.61 (Unix) PHP/4.4.7 mod_ssl/2.0.61 OpenSSL/0.9.7e
> mod_fastcgi/2.4.2 DAV/2 SVN/1.4.2
> Last-Modified: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 00:09:13 GMT
> ETag: "381dd-153-a155fc40"
> Accept-Ranges: bytes
> Content-Length: 339
> Vary: Accept-Encoding
> Connection: close
> Content-Type: text/html
>
> <html>
> <head>
> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Pragma" CONTENT="no_cache">
> <title>Site Temporarily Unavailable</title>
> </head>
>
> <h1>Site Temporarily Unavailable</h1>
>
> We apologize for the inconvenience. Please contact the webmaster/
> tech support immediately to have them rectify this.<p>
>
> <font size=2>error id: "bad_httpd_conf"</font>
>
> </body>
> </html>
>
>
>
> Having problems?  ;->
>
> [1] Before your time, I fear, unless you're a Bullwinkle fan.
>
> --
> Cheers,                                      "Reality is not optional."
> Rick Moen                                             -- Thomas Sowell
> rick at linuxmafia.com
>
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