[svlug] Announcement: VP transition - corrections

Alvin Oga alvin at mail.Linux-Consulting.com
Fri Nov 30 15:06:06 PST 2007


> Lisa wrote:
> 
> On Fri, Nov 30, 2007 at 02:45:09PM -0800, Paul Reiber wrote:
> 
> > Rick postulated:
> > 
> > > Paul has no ability to simply impose his pick for one of our
> > > elected officers.
> > 
> > Hrm... Rick, two comments:
> > 
> > -> I certainly have the ability; you may have mis-chosen
> > words; are you saying I don't have the _authority_?
> 
> Well, if we're going to NIT-PICK words, he did say "the ability
> to simply IMPOSE his pick" and I'd say that Rick is correct. 
> The ability to TRY is indisputable.
> 
> > Realizing SVLUG's election procedures have varied wildly from
> > online voting some years through shows of hands others, and
> > that there IS no "established method" for voting... do you
> > really feel that appointment is out of the question?  Or, are
> > you just chest-puffing to see if it'll get you something?
> 
> While the procedures have varied from year to year, I would say
> that it's a pretty well established president that no office was
> *ever* filled (that I can recall in my 14 years on-and-off of
> membership in SVLUG) by appointment with no call for volunteers
> and/or AT LEAST confirmation of that appointment by the
> membership.
> 
> > Rick, If you're asserting that there was a specifc vote or
> > decision that no SVLUG office would _ever_ be filled by
> > appointment instead of election, produce the evidence.
> 
> Well, there was also no specific vote or decision that the
> president couldn't set a fire during the meetings... Claiming
> that "there's no rule, therefore it's inherently allowed" is
> ludicrous.
> 
> > Otherwise, wrong.  The past does NOT define the present, nor
> > the future.
> 
> As far as I know, precedents are often accepted as rule in the
> legal system.  So, while it's not *definitive* that the past
> defines the present or the future, it's sure a reasonable
> *expectation* that, without good reason to change, it would.
> 
> > -Dictator Paul
> 
> Even if it WAS meant in jest --- and, frankly, I am not sure it
> was --- I gotta say that that signature disturbs me more than
> anything that has happened thus far.
> 
> Lisa
> 
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