[svlug] Looking for DSL recommendations
joel_seidman at yahoo.com
Wed Feb 14 09:45:09 PST 2007
--- Daniel Gimpelevich <daniel at gimpelevich.san-francisco.ca.us> wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 10:29:20 -0800, Joel Seidman wrote:
> > Internet is bundled with video,
> > and you can't get video separately.
> This is not correct; you _can_ get video separately;
You might be right. I wasn't offered it and I don't see it on their web pages.
>you cannot get
> Internet separately.
Internet over the phone line has been available for years, without video. I guess you mean
something more specific.
Since U-Verse services come over the phone line (or am I wrong about that?), I assumed the
Internet part used regular ADSL to get into the house, but maybe it is a different signaling
method, in which case I guess you would be correct under a narrow definition of "Internet".
> > I asked if they brought fiber to the house. CS said yes.
My next line you omitted:
> > I think that's incorrect though; I've heard it only goes to the neighborhood. Still, that
> Also incorrect; AT&T has no fiber anywhere. The service is VDSL with
> compression and QoS out the wazoo. It is not possible to get fiber in any
> AT&T area, unless you lay the fiber yourself all the way to their
> switches, and convince them to hook you up after that.
The following is from an ATT press release page (http://www.att.com/gen/press-room?pid=5838):
"AT&T expects to reach nearly 19 million households as part of its initial deployment by the end
of 2008. AT&T is adding about 40,000 miles of fiber to its already fiber-rich network, bringing
fiber even closer to customers' homes using fiber-to-the-node (FTTN) and fiber-to-the-premises
This, plus the statements of ATT customer service, is what I based my comment on; I don't fully
understand the terminology, and it could be all hype, for all I know. (Sorry for posting such
blatantly commercial material.) Anyway, I think it's a fascinating time, with very dynamic
technological changes to available information sources.
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