[svlug] ISSUE: SVLUG's continued status with SBAY

Bill Ward bill at wards.net
Fri Feb 24 20:20:32 PST 2006

If you're unhappy with how it was handled, talk to Marc Merlin and Don
Marti.  They were in charge of SVLUG at that time, and determined how
it was done.

On 2/24/06, J. Paul Reed <preed at svlug.org> wrote:
> On 24 Feb 2006 at 01:59:07, Robert Hajime Lanning arranged the bits on my disk to say:
> > So, you are saying that SVLUG voted to be part of SBAY without knowing
> > what it was doing?  We just blindly said "We just vote and agree to be
> > part of the SBAY corporation and that's it." Paper work?  We don't need
> > no paper work.
> I know this is an attempt at humor... but from the evidence we've tried to
> gather, this is pretty much how it happened.
> There was no electronic (and thus archived) discussion, no posted SVLUG
> meeting minutes, no announcement of the original vote, no website
> information, NOTHING.
> We looked through the archives and couldn't find any. Bill Ward, an SBAY
> Board member agreed: he couldn't find any.
> It's actually made discussing this somewhat difficult, because we can't
> talk about what the original reasons were: there's no archive of what the
> original reasons were stated to be.
> We can't talk about and review how SBAY has delivered on the benefits they
> said SVLUG would enjoy: there's no archive of what they said the benefits
> would be.
> If you're asking yourself "Well, then how did we get into this relationship
> in the first place?" I think the answer is "It was announced randomly at
> some meeting, no opportunity for discussion was presented, and the people
> who happened to be there--the vote wasn't announced, remember--voted for it
> because they didn't really know what they were voting on, and what the pros
> and cons really were."
> > SBAY maybe very slow in getting the corporation ground work done, but we
> > are even worse.  SBAY has made WAY more progress than we have.
> SVLUG didn't make the charter a priority because SBAY wasn't an
> incorporated entity until a couple of months ago.
> (Actually, I'd like to give you the exact date the paperwork was filed;
> I've asked the Board for that information a couple of times and been
> ignored.)
> Later,
> Paul
> --
> President
> Silicon Valley Linux Users' Group
> preed at svlug.org
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