[svlug] Re: svlug Digest, Vol 281, Issue 13

[Ian MacLure]

At 04:22 AM 1/24/04 -0500, you wrote:

>From: Larry Colen <lrclug at red4est.com>
>Subject: [svlug] Java IDE's
>Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 19:42:58 -0800

         [snip]

>If you have any reccomendations for IDEs to use (or avoid) I'd greatly
>appreciate the benefit of your experience.

         I got dumped in the deep end ( my sole experience with Java
         previously was the course I took from Art Anderson @ USCS in
         '97 ) writing a client server app. Never done any c-s or much
         gui stuff ( okay I wrote OpenGL for a couple years ).
         So basically I was faced with boot-strapping myself and no
         help in-house.
         I looked at JBuilder, Eclipse, AnyJ, NetBeans, JEdit and some
         others.
         I chose to use JBuilder 9PE. I have a paid copy of 8SE as well
         but it isn't near as configurable as 9 and I can live without the
         disabled features in 9.
         Don't know about the X version.

>For learning Java, I've been reading O'Reilly's Java in a nutshell and
>bought the 3 book tutorial from Sun. Again, reccomendations, or
>warnings are appreciated.

         I like Schildt's book ( or the older Schildt & (Ahem) Naughton )
         Java 2 ( Java 1.1 ), The Complete Reference
         Ivor Horton is a good read too.

>I've been asking various folks and groups this question. A few issues
>have come up. One question I have is "what editor does your favorite
>IDE use?".

         Sadly it isn't vi-like but it is usable and mostly not annoying
         execpt for its tabbing habits.

>I've also had a lot of folks telling me that I should be using GTK,
>Python, C++ etc. I tend to be pretty skeptical of buzzword compliant
>technologies, and have only recently begun to conceed that Java is a
>"real language". It does seem to have the advantages of being known by
>a lot of programmers, and of having been designed from the start to be
>Object Oriented.

         Well, I would simply remark that getting and installing Java for most
         platforms is a no-brainer. Managing multiple SDKs is also a breeze.
         Transitioning from C++ is dead easy as well.

>Anyways, I'm very interested in your advice, comments, experience
>etc. It may be best to send me notes off the list, rather than boring
>everyone else with something that borders on religious issues.

         Off list?
         What are you some kind of heretic?
         Quick send for the Open-Source Inquisition....

         IBM