[svlug] recommendations for GNU/Linux, Apache, Perl, and MySQL development

[Drew Bertola]

On Tue, 2004-02-24 at 01:04, Steve Hindle wrote:
> I'll prolly be in the minority here, but you really just can't beat Zope 
> for web stuff.  PHP is a nice enough language - but Zope provides a true 
> _framework_.  Every thing from user management to content management.  The 
> easiest way to describe it is 'a smaller, lighter j2ee'.  Zope includes DB 
> connectivity, Dreamweaver Compatible templating language, LDAP Support, a 
> huge number of 'plug-in' applications, and something like 10 years of real 
> world use.  The down side are potentially:
>   Its python based.
>   There is a learning curve

Also, one app per server (or run it as a cgi from within apache, no?). 
I was just looking into it, but found that constraint too restrictive. 
There were plenty of people who got it to run from with apache
virtualhosts using rewrite rules, but I'm not sure I want to use such
unwieldy tools.

> PHP is finally starting to move out of the 'glue the modules together' 
> phase, and into developing integrated toolkits like this.  However, none of 
> them have had the years of development time that went into Zope.

Every so often, I run into something in php that could be a little
smoother.  It's not often though.  PHP 5 will take care of some that,
too.

> I fought moving to Zope for a long time - but in the end, I really couldn't 
> justify staying with php.

I'm still fighting it.

--
Drew