Fwd: Re: [svlug] archival file system?

Piotr T Zbiegiel peter at usestrict.org
Mon Aug 4 23:09:25 PDT 2003


Oops, forgot to CC the list...
On Mon, 04 Aug 2003 23:08:04 -0700, "Piotr T Zbiegiel"
<peter at usestrict.org> said:
> Actually, it's not difficult to see why products like this don't exist. 
> Check hard drive prices from 10 years ago, now check hard drive prices
> today.  They are a fraction (per MB) of what they used to be.  The reason
> there is no demand for this sort of FS is because if you need more
> storage, you buy more disk.  And with the mass of cheap disk, RAIDs, and
> Fiberchannel, why bother with a complicated FS when you can just buy more
> disk that spins just as fast as what is in your array already and is
> trivial to add and utilize.  Recently I upgraded my 35G HD to a 120G
> drive for about $100.  It's faster than my old drive which improved my
> computer's performance and it was cheap!  And I am not going to need to
> "archive" any of my data for QUITE a while;)
> 
> Later,
> Peter
> 
> On Mon, 04 Aug 2003 19:58:06 -0700, "Reg. Charney"
> <charney at charneyday.com> said:
> > Thanks Brian,
> > 
> > I am surprised by the lack of products like this. I will look into this 
> > further. Again, thanks.
> > 
> > Reg.
> > 
> > Brian Chrisman wrote:
> > 
> > >On Mon, Aug 04, 2003 at 01:50:09AM -0700, Reg. Charney wrote:
> > >  
> > >
> > >>I am looking for an open-source archival file system. This type of file 
> > >>system looks like any other, but files are "aged" by activity. Older 
> > >>files are moved to "backing storage" but still appear as normal files 
> > >>for all intents. The only penalty paid is time. If you request a file 
> > >>that has not been accessed in a long time, bringing it into high speed 
> > >>storage may to some time. Please note, I am not asking about a backup 
> > >>system. Backups are a logically different beast - one meant to protect 
> > >>you from lost data. The archival system is meant to optimize use of 
> > >>limited high speed storage. (Think of the limited space in many 
> > >>notebooks.)  TIA.
> > >>    
> > >>
> > >
> > >A lot of people call that an Heirarchical Storage Management solution.
> > >Outside of the mainframe world, the only product I've heard of for any
> > >UNIX is Veritas' HSM... works with their vxfs.
> > >
> > >Some article claims EVMS will do HSM stuff...
> > >http://www.snwonline.com/behind/linux_growing_up_05-27-02.asp?article_id=126
> > >But their sourceforge page doesn't mention it:
> > >http://evms.sourceforge.net/
> > >
> > >IBM's tivoli claims it'll do HSM for linux:
> > >http://www-3.ibm.com/software/os/linux/software/tivoli.shtml
> > >But that's not free, I think..
> > >
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > >>Reg.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
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