[svlug] Suse 8.1 ftp version on DVD -> boycott networking-professionals.com

[Ivan Sergio Borgonovo]

On 7 Apr 2003 at 15:56, Marc MERLIN wrote:

> On Tue, Apr 08, 2003 at 12:29:04AM +0200, Ivan Sergio Borgonovo wrote: >
> The subject is misleading. I read it as if you were suggesting to >
> boycott SuSE.

> You're right, my bad, I adjusted the subject line.

You're even too scrupulous and correct.
I definitively have apreciated your work as a moderator, and behind the 
scenes as an administrator, in the years I've been a SVLUG list member.

> > Maybe we can complain with SuSE about their reseller.
> > I will, I'm one of SuSE customers.

> Thank you.

For what? Spam is one of my problems too. I'm doing it for myself.
It will take less and it will be more effective to write an email than 
write a smart script to auto feed /etc/postfix/access.

If someone is a RH customer I'd suggest to complain there too.

Please don't move the incriminated email from the archives, I'm going 
to refer to it.

Unfortunately I was surprised to the notice the list doesn't have a 
clear policy to deal with spam (just 2 lines will be enough to say we 
notified it is not tollerated), it may come usefull in case of repeated 
harrassment.

On 7 Apr 2003 at 15:33, Mark S Bilk wrote:

> I think SuSE is GPLed (except for any commercial software in their
> distro).  They just don't make ISO CD images available, so that 
> downloading their product for free is a little more trouble,
> so that maybe _somebody_ will _buy_ it (I do) and they can stay
> in business.

YaST is not GPLed. It wasn't last time I checked. It came (and maybe it
still come) with source, the right to change it, but no right to
distribute the changed source.

> I'm sure those goons just downloaded the software from SuSE's
> website like anybody else.  SuSE has no control over what
> they do.  And they're certainly not going to go after them
> about posting an ad to a mailing list.  Especially during a
> discussion of where to buy downloaded Linux distros cheap...

Yep, but SuSE and RH[*] will be quite upset. At least I hope they will.
They may block their IP or find something more creative to do to avoid
their name will be associated once more with a spammer.
I'm just trying to lower the chances that spamming will be free and
unavoidable.

This is what I'm sending to SuSE:

As one of your customer I'm sorry to inform you that a spammer promoted
your products on the SVLUG mailing list. The association of your name to
such pratices is definitively shadowing your image.

Blocking their IP to your FTP will be apreciated.

Here you'll find the incriminated email:
http://lists.svlug.org/archives/svlug/2003-April/044122.html

Thank you for your collaboration

no need to torture them... we can keep the thing legal ;)

[*] any RH customer there?

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