[svlug] Re: Thread Programming and Java

[Mats Henricson]

> As for Java, let's be honest. Java is a language that deliberately
> trades-off performance to enable novice and mediocre programmers write
> software that will run.

So, is it bad that novices and mediocre programmers can use it?

> So they hype it up and try to get everyone to jump
> on the bandwagon.

Which is totally unrelated to the performance trade-off, or
novice/mediocre statement! Everyone creating new technology
tries to hype it.

> Well the Linux community attracts talented programmers

I bet it gives you a warm fuzzy feeling to be among that
crowd, instead of that pesky horde of Java programmers...

> and they see this performance trade-off, so they prefer to not
> program in Java.

It is very unprofessional, and even untalented, to dump a
language only because it runs slower than C.

> I'm sorry if anyone is offended, but this is the reality folks.
> Like it or not: Java trades-off performance, so less than expert
> programmers can write code that runs.

Oh my, isn't it a bad sign if only expert programmers can
use it? I know C and C++ better than most, but all the traps
and pitfalls scares me.

> Are you interested in working with this crap?

Yes, I dumped C++ several years ago, and I don't miss my 8+
years as a C++ programmer at all.

Mats