[svlug] StarOFfice to be GPL'd, integrated with Gnome

[dfox@belvdere.vip.best.com]

> As a hopefully new twist to this thread:  what wm do you use
> then?  I was an fvwm2 addict for a long time - since starting

I use KDE mostly, but then I'm keeping up with the KDE2 development.
I use GNOME mostly when the kde isn't running, and AfterStep from
time to time. I have an .xinitrc which handily lets me choose between
window managers -- all I need to do is edit it, comment out one line,
and take the comment off another line.

> I recently switched to KDE - mostly because I upgraded a box to
> Red Hat 6.2 and it's support for fvwm2 was so pathetic that I
> could not even get it working within about an hour of effort.  

I didn't like Redhat's window manager setup that well -- it seems
too convoluted. A simple .xinitrc is a lot easier to manage (like I
said, I can quickly edit it) rather than a series of links all over
the place.

> effort got me to have focus follows mouse and I got rid of the
> stupid Windows-like taskbar.  For the most part, it works OK for

I gave focus follows mouse a try. I didn't like it, too hard to
control. 

> one would hope - I actually have to restart X every few weeks
> when it just gets sluggish and the control button in the upper

Part of that is the server itself -- X seems to want to keep
growing.

> 89.7% of my memory being used by X.  Why?  My old fvwm2 setup ran
> MONTHS between any kind of restart, and though I don't recall the

Just X by itself, or all the processes that are started when you
start X? (window manager, netscrape, etc.)?

> eye-candy.  I do want multiple xterm (or xterm-like) windows open
> per screen, 8 or so virtual screens with an easy way to switch

KDE/gnome gives you that, but so does AfterStep. I have several
[kc]onsoles open, but I also use xterms. Even if the WM is
bloated, I have the best of both worlds running gnome or KDE
with a couple of xterms or consoles running. I'm fairly comfortable
on the command line, so a lot of the time I'm running commands from
there instead of using the filemanager to do so. At the same time, it's
neat to just drag a file to xmms, or to have both local and remote 
directory windows open, and just transfer a file by dragging the file
object from one window to the other. 

> Greg

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