[svlug] Re: [nylug-talk] Bunch of Cuckoo's FoilingNapsterUsers??

Erik Steffl steffl at bigfoot.com
Fri Aug 18 13:40:02 PDT 2000


Ruben I Safir wrote:
> 
> Yeah
> 
> But the thing is that Napstar is intended to specifically enable this
> transaction and exploitation of the Music with the hope of profiting
> from it.

  as far as I know the copyright violation does not have anything to do
with whether one makes money of it or not.

> Actually - Napstar is doing what the record companies should be doing as
> their business model-
> Sell advertizing, etc  to pay for enabling the distribution of music
> files between users and the musicians, or just between users!  It's the
> only thing they can do to survive.

  that makes sense.

	erik

> 
> 
> 
> Bill Jonas wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, 18 Aug 2000, Robert Hajime Lanning wrote:
> >
> > >There is no difference between these:
> >
> > Agreed.
> >
> > >The one actualy commiting the crime is the originator who places the file
> > >in the public domain.
> >
> > Suppose I own a legally-purchased, legally-licensed (ad nauseum) CD by
> > <FavoriteBand>.  Further suppose that you also own that same CD, and
> > that you've ripped an MP3 of it.  Now, fair use would dictate that I can
> > legally obtain a copy of the MP3 from you, since I already "own" the CD
> > (the copyright holder (the record label in the vast majority of
> > cases) actually "owns" it, I just happen to own a physical,
> > officially-sanctioned copy of it); it's no different than copying it to
> > audio cassette tape, or making an audio cassette tape of a compilation
> > of my favorite tunes.  If the transfer occurs through Napster (or any
> > other file-sharing mechanism), where is the crime?  I still don't see
> > it.
> >
> > BTW, since "public domain" has a specific meaning WRT copyright, I
> > suggest avoiding it unless you intend that meaning.  ITYM "offers the
> > file for public download", since only the copyright holder of a work can
> > place it in the public domain.
> >
> > Bill
> > --
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> 
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