[svlug] Last Wednesday's speaker - Jerry Peet

[Karsten M. Self]

Tony Cappelllini wrote:
> 
> I thought Jerry's presentation was interesting- especially for me as a novice.
> A very good choice for as guest speaker (Thanks Sam ??)
> 
> The insight the audience brought up were interesting too (Ctrl-Meta-E
> everything), etc.
> 
> I can see how there easily could be religious wars on which shells to use.
> Would someone mind directing  me to some resources on shells on the net ?
> 
> The more I hear about specific shells (I wont say which shell, for fear of
> Shell wars 2000)
> the more I think I should try a another one.
> 
> Sam- where are some refs for the zsh ?

For Debian users, there's a debian package for the shell and a seperate
one for documentation.

I thought I'd also mention that I'm apparently wrong about the behavior
of 'grep -l' for GNU grep -- it will return the name of a file even with
only one argument.  I'd suggested the command idiom:

  grep -l expr file /dev/null

...might be necessary.  It isn't.

  grep -l expr file

...is sufficient.

The place you *will* want to use /dev/null is when you're looking to
have the name of the file prepended to the returned line:

  grep expr file1 file2 ...

If there *is* no file2 (as when using grep within find), you'll need to
add a second file, preferably with little in it.  /dev/null comes to
mind:

  find path -directive arg -exec grep expr {} /dev/null \;

...I'd started doing this for my 'find' greps, and found myself
continuing to use /dev/null even when using the -l option to grep.  My
bad.


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