[svlug] kernel 2.2.2 blues

Marc MERLIN marc_news at merlins.org
Sat Mar 6 16:35:32 PST 1999


On 6 Mar 1999 14:49:12 -0800, Karl F. Larsen <k5di at totacc.com> wrote:
>
>	Well Marc, it may be hard for you to believe but it's true. I
>changed to Red Hat at version 5.2 and it's been less than a happy change.

I'm  enclined  to  believe  you. I  like redhat,  but  I  don't  claim  that
everyone should,  or that it  is the  answer to everything. There  are other
options: Debian, Suse, Caldera to name a few (in my order of preference).
I haven't yet used turbolinux, so I can't comment on it.

However, I do claim that slackware should just go away :-)
(it's too old, and not maintained well enough).
Slackware will install on some PCs where RH will fail, but I'm certain that
Debian would install just as well on those machines.

>For some reason I can't get the X window system to run in xvga in Red Hat.

That's not  a lot of  details. I've found  RH's Xconfigurator to  work quite
well (with supported  PCI boards, at install  time, it will setup  X for you
without asking  any questions), but  if it doesn't  work, you can  still use
XF86Setup, or xf86config, just like you would on slackware.
Since I  used to maintain a  howto in French on  how to hack X  modelines, I
personally maintain the file by hand :-)

>It did on my old Slackware and the little lilo.config from Slackware works
>100% better than the stupid Red Hat system. I may be not using it right

Sorry, but once again, you elude me here. Are you saying that RH generated a
/etc/lilo.conf that  doesn't work for you? Well,  if it did happen,  you can
edit it by hand, just like you would on slackware.

>	On 2.2.2 my ppp is version pppd version 2.3 patch level 5
>which I brought over from my root directory. Whether this is equivelent to
>pppd version 2.3.5 I do not know. If there is not a new pppd for 2.2.2

Yes it is.

>then I have no idea what to do. My question is: how does the kernel mess

You didn't enable debugging, or try the shell script I posted.
If you've been using linux for 6 years (most likely SLS and slackware),
don't you know how to do this by hand (i.e. without the RH GUI?)

>around with the ppp demon? It loads it on command and it's set Yes in the
>kernel.

You provide no debugging information, and my crystal ball is being serviced
right now. Sorry, but I can't help you in those conditions.

>	I spent all morning on the server you pointed me to and have
>applied all the rpm files. Many required rpm -i --force because they
>appeared to be the same version.

If they're the same, you do not need to re-install them
rpm -i --force would be mainly used when you re-install a binary that has
been corrupted.

>	RPM works fine but it's new to me. I don't like force since it

There is a learning curve to go through whenever you change distributions. I
remember I also had to go through it when I switched from slackware to
redhat 3 years ago.

>	In another message today a guy told me that Red Hat conciders
>kernel 2.2.2 to be "experimental". I think maybe that's true...

As Rick said, that weren't his words, and 2.2.2 is definitely not
experimental.

You did use to run 0.98 and 0.99plx kernels, and from the 1.0.x series
onwards, right? 
You do know about the kernel numbering scheme right?

Marc
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