[svlug] Pissing contest
marc_news at merlins.org
Sat Jan 30 18:54:39 PST 1999
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On 30 Jan 1999 14:48:42 -0800, Hans Cathcart <hans at itavera.com> wrote:
>I actually think claims like SSLUG or even our own SVLUG to be the biggest
>are sort of silly and counter productive. Linux is based around cooperation
I am also starting to get slightly annoyed by all this.
To set the record straight, I sent an Email to Michael Nordstrom pointing
out the SV was a pretty small area, and that their English web page did
imply that SSLUG only had a meeting 4 times a year.
He responded that the region in which SSLUG members live isn't that big
either (even if it spawns in two countries). As for the English web page, it
was severly outdated, and indeed not very clear (the person who wrote it
didn't have the same command of the English language a native speaker
As far as I'm concerned, that's all I need. I'm enclined to believe that
they are indeed bigger than us, and even if they're not, it doesn't matter.
Let's not forget that we're supposed to be working together.
As far as I'm concerned, some of this was due to miscommunication.
Most of you have seen Ian's editorial. In return, SSLUG felt they had to
respond (if they hadn't some would have complained about being ignored).
I found the page on their web site: http://www.sslug.dk/~pto/largestLUG.html
This is all silly, I really hope it's going to end here. After having CCed
their web team on my answer to Michael, I got a few answers back, and all I
can say, is that they're nice folks. They're going to re-work their English
page a bit, and we agreed that this should end here.
After things cool down a bit, they will consider putting a link to us, and a
few lines, hopefully settling this for good. I have suggested that they
consider something similar to this:
We believe to be the largest LUG of the world based on the number of
subscribers to our mailing list, but it's difficult to compare numbers
which are not necessarly related, so we would like to acknowledge SVLUG,
another big LUG.
In the end, the only thing that matters is that LUGs all over the world
If you don't like it, I'd rather you flood my mailbox telling me how much of
a bonehead I am, than having each of you send them your version of what you
think they should put.
On our side, we really ought to take out Ian's editorial (sorry Ian), most
people who cared already read it and I don't think it helps putting all this
behind us. I'd much rather see something like:
We believe to be the largest LUG in America, but it is very possible that
SSLUG can claim the title of largest LUG in the world. Knowing for sure is
difficult because all this is based on mailing list subscription numbers,
and they're not all that relevant anyway since both lists have subscribers
from remote locations (for instance, SVLUG has subscribers from about 20
What does matter is that all LUGs grow and that we work together to keep
spreading the word about Linux.
PS: Cool picture in the jet, Ian :-)
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