[svlug] Stampede Linux 0.86 beta (was: /lib/cpp)
Jonathan Sergent
sergent at kgb.etla.net
Tue Sep 8 17:43:42 PDT 1998
In message <19980908160326.C21090 at hugin.imat.com>, Rick Moen writes:
(Stampede)
] Any thoughts or reactions?
After all of those things that it doesn't do, what _does_ it do?
My first reaction when I first saw their web page was that their initial
design goals were to not include fvwm95 and to not use RPM or dpkg (and
a few other things). The has changed since, but that was the first thing
that I saw. Not that I like fvwm95, but...
As to the package format, I have heard rumors that RPM 3.x will use the
same concept (cpio.gz files with the metadata inside them rather than
tacked on in front of the file).
They also lack things like source packages, relocatable packages, etc.
Reinventing the wheel seems counterproductive.
Any idea what the motivation for using pgcc instead of egcs is? At least
egcs can compile most things right (still some problems with the kernel
for me). RH5.1 comes with egcs-1.0.
BSD-style init scripts bug me. I like the SysV ones much better. Their
decision to bundle KDE bugs me on ideological grounds, and much of the
other software they list that they want to add that Slackware does not
ship are things that Red Hat (and if not that then almost certainly they
are available for Debian as official packages) ship.
Some things are sorta silly, like shipping binaries of lsof. Pretty
much whenever you rebuild a 2.0.x kernel, you have to rebuild lsof as
well-- or at least you should. 2.1.x's /proc has enough info to make
lsof happy in it and so if you build lsof on 2.1.x (x > 70something
IIRC) it will use /proc.
Or "Different Cron and At". What's the point?
Sigh.
--jss.
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