[svlug] Local Classes

Rafael Skodlar raffi at kset.com
Sat Nov 14 00:37:41 PST 1998


On Fri, 13 Nov 1998, David E. Fox wrote:

> > On Fri, 13 Nov 1998, Marilyn Davis wrote:
> > 
> > > I teach Intro to Unix/C at the Extension and I teach the GNU
> > > programming tools to rank beginners in a unix lab.  There is a Unix
> > > Administration Certificate, and other Unix stuff as well as
> 
> I wonder what courses are needed to get this certificate? I'm looking for

I suggest you get a class schedule from UCSC and other schools that offer
Unix related classes. Check their web sites too. I got my Admin
Certificate from UCSC some years back. I was pleased with the classes. 
It's hard to say who are the best instructors since they change over time. 
I hope they got better equipment now. We used Sony News machines in the
class. I used Linux in the last semester in 95. Having Linux at home makes
it much easier to do the homework even though some programs don't work as
expected due to the GNU nature of Linux while the instructor expects you
to learn "pure" programing on another platform :-) 

I did take a few clases at DeAnza. In both cases my company (National
Semi. at that time) covered the cost which was realy generous. If you have
to pay for the classes it does get a bit expensive. I find a semester long
courses better than a fast paced ones. You have more time for absorbing
the lessons and do the homework. 

> employment in possibly junior-level system administration, but
> don't have work experience in that area. :( (But I've been using
> Linux for a long time. ) :) Perhaps Marilyn will chime in.. 

I believe it's important to understand other versions of Unix and how they
work in mixed environment. You won't find one version of OS in any shop
these days unless you work for the company that opened new place this
week. 

Idealy we would have a place with different OSes connected to the network
where everybody would get a shot at configuring different servers and
workstations. It would take a few weeks for everybody in the class to get
the hands on experience. 

> 
> > I have had friends taks classes at both UCSC Extention in Sunnyvale and at
> > De Anza college. Their opinion was that for most things, the De Anza
> 
.................

> batch-like, rather than interactive in that sense. And I distinctly
> got the feeling that the people who ran the lab didn't trust the
> students; they might break the computers. I did take an operations

That's correct, never trust students with the expensive equipment. It
breaks my heart watching people abusing machines with a screwdriver and
coffe/soda.

> course, but we weren't allowed to do much. :(
> 
> It's probably better now, but I don't know for sure.
> 

It's cheaper equipment we deal with. Unfortunately people deal with it
even more careless. 

> > George Bonser
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   Rafael Skodlar


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