[svlug] Follow up...

[Rafael Skodlar]

On Thu, 12 Nov 1998, Gies, Dennis wrote:

> 
> One more thing (sorry to spam):  my manager often argues that he has heard
> of NT servers running consistently for over a year without a reboot.  I tell
> him that I must be pretty dumb then, because I can't make it 3 days on my
> _desktop_ NT machine.  He basically thinks NT and Linux are about equal in
> reliability...I need some stats :)  

You need to bring your manager to one of our meetings to see how strong
our motivations with stable OS are. And we can back our positions with
live examples and beer.

Some stats:
P233MHz, server for DNS, printing, Samba, sysadmin,++:

  2:19pm  up 81 days, 23:00, 16 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
USER     TTY      FROM              LOGIN@   IDLE   JCPU   PCPU  WHAT
raffi    tty2                      22Aug98 81days 21:05m  0.03s  startx
raffi    ttyp1    :0.0             21Oct98 22:36m  0.29s  0.29s  -tcsh 
raffi    ttyp2    :0.0             22Aug98  0.00s  2.59s  0.08s  w 
raffi    ttyp3    :0.0             15Oct98 22:39m  0.30s  0.30s  -tcsh 
raffi    ttyp0    :0.0             22Aug98 26.00s  1.84s  0.49s  pine 
raffi    ttyp5    :0.0              1Sep98 24:50m 24.59s  1.89s  bash
raffi    ttyp4    :0.0             22Aug98 22:36m  1.05s  1.05s  -tcsh 
raffi    ttyp6    :0.0             24Aug98 12days  0.32s  0.32s  tcsh
raffi    ttyp7    :0.0             30Sep98  1:50m  1.64s  1.64s  telnet prot
raffi    ttyp8    :0.0             24Aug98 20:41m  0.70s  0.37s  -bash 
raffi    ttyp9    :0.0             11:43am  2:34m  0.11s  0.11s  -tcsh 
raffi    ttypa    :0.0             25Aug98  3:30m  1.26s  1.26s  telnet mercury
raffi    ttypb    :0.0             11:46am  2:29m  0.04s  0.04s  telnet athena 
raffi    ttypd    :0.0              2:19pm  5.00s  0.08s  0.08s/usr/local/bin/
raffi    ttype    :0.0             26Aug98  9days  0.51s  0.51s  tcsh
raffi    ttypf    :0.0             10Sep98 12days  0.30s  0.30s  tcsh

P90, printer server, dial-in, and Samba:
  2:22pm  up 98 days, 23:18,  3 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
USER     TTY      FROM              LOGIN@  IDLE   JCPU   PCPU  WHAT
raffi    ttyp0    somewhere         11:43am  0.00s  2.42s  0.17s  w 
raffi    ttyp2    ppp2.kset.com     5:38pm 40days  0.99s  0.31s  -tcsh 
raffi    ttyp3    mrbean.kset.com   5:39pm 34days  7.07s  6.65s  xv 

FTP server, 486:
  2:27pm  up 93 days, 22:03,  2 users,  load average: 0.08, 0.02, 0.01
USER     TTY      FROM              LOGIN@  IDLE   JCPU   PCPU  WHAT
mask     ttyp0    host11           2:27pm  0.00s  1.07s  0.14s  w 

I'm sure others can come up with machines that run longer than mine
without crashes.  

I just rebooted an NT because it failed to copy files to a removable
Syquest cartridge. It totaly locked up, no way to recover.  Formatting the
same cartridge is taking over 15 minutes and is at about 20% and not going
anywhere. My Linux prepares the same cartridge in about a minute, and I
can do it remotely, assuming somebody puts the cartridge into the drive.

> 
> Also, if you have some good Apache vs. IIS4 comparisons, I'm sure he'd liek

No need to compare. If the OS is unstable what do you expect from the
apps? To keep it up?

> to see them too...
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> dnns

Life is good. And it will get better when Linux takes over. Some people
are doing just that. Congrats go to VA Research and it's team for
attracting the capital for the expansion into world domination. I wish you
guys would make your company shares available to our members aswell. That
way we wouldn't need MS to pay for the pizza.

If all goes well, we are going to port one of our products to Linux soon.
I was bugging people around me long enough :-)

Patience young man and good luck.

   Rafael


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