[svlug] netscape-dynam problems...

Rick Moen rick at hugin.imat.com
Sat Sep 27 01:23:50 PDT 1997


Javilk wrote:

> The latter may be true; but we do have Linux itself running.  

At a minimum, you say you have libc problems.  That's bad.

> But, given the same problem is on both Linux machines, I think 
> there is more to it than a clean install.

At a minimum, you say you have libc problems.  That's bad.

> In contrast, Linux came up a lot faster and ran a lot better.  
> Up to a point.... Up to the point where I have ENOUGH of a 
> Linux system running that I will not easily let go.

At a minimum, you say you have libc problems.  That's bad.

> This machine with Linux will serve a LAN quite well.  The problem
> is limited to running X and Netscape.

Well, there's excellent reason to doubt that.  On at least one 
machine, you have a libc problem.  It seems apparent, from several
posts, that you installed onto hardware about which (now, at least)
you have doubts, and that you didn't properly check hardware 
compatibility and configuration.

Everything in the prior sentence you can (usually) get away with
on Lose95, but it'll generally bite you on any other Intel-based OS.
It was an inauspicious beginning.  It suggests you should start over.

Then, there's the bollixed libc files.  That's kicking a Linux box
where it lives -- very bad news -- the sort of bad news that makes
one wonder what else has been horribly screwed up.  Judging from the
other responses, I am not alone in this view.


OK, you say you need a diagnostics program.  The one you need is the
one _behind your eyeballs_.  Read your hardware documentation 
thoroughly.  All of it.  Get to know all the settings at both the
hardware and firmware levels.

After that, make copies of any data files you have to keep, blow
away your system, and do a careful, clean installation.  _This_
time, you'll know about your hardware, eh?  For example, you'll
know exactly what video chipset you have (not just the video
card's model number), know how much video RAM is present, and be 
able to make an educated guess what RAMDAC the card uses.
If you monitor isn't listed by model in your X server's installer,
you'll make sure you have handy its vertical and horizontal 
scanning frequency capabilities.

If you're not prepared to do such things, I see no point in 
your buying diagnostics programs.  The cranial one is almost 
inevitably more useful.

> So, having determined that the problem lies in system wide
> interactions, we start with the hardware foundation and build up.

[much snipped]

No, _we_ do not.  Perhaps _you_ do, but you long ago passed any 
reasonable expectation of free, expert help from strangers who
by and large earn sizeable sums of money in the computer industry.

Please hire someone, and take the matter private.  This has gone a 
bit far, Javilk.

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Cheers,                                     The Viking's Reminder:
Rick Moen                                   Pillage first, _then_ burn.
rick (at) hugin.imat.com              

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