[Speakers] CONFIRMED March 2004 - Guido van Rossum

[Joyce Cao Traugott]

March 3rd at 7pm. The location for now is Cisco building 9.  Map and
directions are on http://www.svlug.org/directions/cisco-9-intro.shtml.

Joyce

Guido van Rossum wrote:

> Since February isn't open after all, let's do March.  I'll pick a topic
> closer to that date -- maybe something more general and introductory,
> maybe a test run of what I'm going to say at PyCon 2004 later the same
> month.
>
> Can you confirm the exact date, time and location?
>
> Please use my work email address, so I won't have to debug my Linux box
> at home (the instructions were unhelpful, alas).
>
> --Guido van Rossum (home page: http://www.python.org/~guido)
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: stevegt at TerraLuna.Org [mailto:stevegt at TerraLuna.Org]
> > Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 10:50 PM
> > To: guido at python.org
> > Cc: Aniruddha Mulay; Marc MERLIN; Ian Kluft; Joyce Cao
> > Traugott KG6IAN; speakers at svlug.org
> > Subject: SVLUG PROPOSED February, March -- Guido van Rossum
> >
> >
> > Hi Guido,
> >
> > I'll make it easier for you -- I'm the speaker coordinator for SVLUG;
> > Ani is on our program committee.  You can relay through either one of
> > us.  We'd love to have you speak.  Our next open month appears to be
> > February -- March is open also.  Ani, Joyce, and everyone on the
> > speakers list, does anyone see any conflict with booking Guido for a
> > Python talk in either of those two months?
> >
> > Guido, which month was it you wanted?
> >
> > Steve
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 16, 2003 at 08:33:26PM -0700, Marc MERLIN wrote:
> > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2003 at 10:13:40AM -0700, Aniruddha Mulay wrote:
> > > > Marc,
> > > >
> > > > There seems to be some problem with the SVLUG speakers list
> > > > mailman settings.
> > >
> > > Short version, there is nothing wrong with the settings,
> > read the error
> > > message to see what's wrong with the sender.
> > >
> > > > BTW, the mailer system responsible for
> > <speakers at svlug.org> refuses
> > > > mail from my home box (which is a Linux box on a cable broadband
> > > > system).  It seems it doesn't like to receive mail from
> > hosts without
> > > > MX records.  I think that's not according to the mail
> > specs, so please
> > > > don't ask me to fix *my* system (I can't).
> > >
> > > Hi Guido,
> > >
> > > >    ----- Transcript of session follows -----
> > > > ... while talking to svlug.org.:
> > > > >>> RCPT To:<speakers at svlug.org>
> > > > 451-Could not complete sender verify callout for
> > > > 451-<guido at 12-236-54-216.client.attbi.com>.
> > > > 451-The mail server(s) for the domain may be temporarily
> > unreachable, or
> > > > 451-they may be permanently unreachable from this server.
> > In the latter case,
> > > > 451-you need to change the address or create an MX record
> > for its > domain
> > > > 451-if it is supposed to be generally accessible from the
> > Internet.
> > > > 451 Talk to your mail administrator for details.
> > > > <speakers at svlug.org>... Deferred: 451-Could not complete
> > sender verify
> > >
> > > So, your problem is not that you are sending mail from the
> > AT&T network,
> > > we don't blackhole anyone (I have one of my home machines
> > on that network
> > > too for that matter)
> > >
> > > You problem is that your envelope sender is set by your
> > mail server to
> > > guido at 12-236-54-216.client.attbi.com, but you are refusing mail at
> > > that address.
> > > gandalf:~$ telnet 12-236-54-216.client.attbi.com smtp
> > > Trying 12.236.54.216...
> > > telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused
> > >
> > > You cannot send mail with a fake envelope sender (which
> > this one is), it has
> > > to be something that can be bounced back to (failing to do
> > that, not only
> > > means that you have been missing on numerous messages send
> > to your envelope
> > > sender, like bounces, vacation and other autoreplies, but
> > also this leaves
> > > the remote mail servers you talk to unable to send you
> > bounces, and they
> > > get stuck wasting resources trying to reach you).
> > > This mail setup simply lets you know that it will not
> > accept mail from you
> > > that cannot be bounced (it does not want the burden of
> > losing a reply for
> > > you, so the only way it can let you know is by refusing your mail).
> > >
> > > This is easy to fix, just setup your mail server to
> > masquerade your envelope
> > > from to say guido at python.org and all will be well.
> > >
> > > If you are not able to fix your MTA, your options are:
> > > 1) send your mail with the same address from any other mail server
> > >    (this won't fix your real problem though)
> > > 2) ask us to whitelist your fake at&t Email address, but
> > here again, this
> > >    won't fix your mail setup and you still will miss out on
> > bounces and
> > >    will be unable to Email sites like sourceforge.net
> > >
> > > BTW, I won't be able to get a reply from you if you send it
> > from your
> > > home machine before it gets fixed, but you can Email me
> > from elsewhere if
> > > needed.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2003 at 12:07:07PM -0700, Aniruddha Mulay wrote:
> > > > Marc,
> > > >
> > > > Would you please accept this e-mail ? :)
> > >
> > > I got your first mail :)
> > > (I read personal mail on a regular basis, but not always list mail)
> > >
> > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2003 at 12:57:29PM -0700, Ian Kluft wrote:
> > > > Ani -
> > > >
> > > > I guess I should be flattered that you seem to think I'm
> > able to fix
> > > > anything. :-)  But I don't have admin access to the
> > MailMan installation
> > > > on Marc's server.  I believe that Steve and Joyce may
> > have admin access
> > > > to the speakers list so I've CC'ed them on this in case
> > it's anything
> > > > that can be administered from the web interface, and so
> > they're aware
> > > > of your report.
> > >
> > > The have access (I think Don does too, although he might
> > have lost it), but
> > > this has nothing to do with mailman.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Oct 16, 2003 at 01:34:51PM -0700, Aniruddha Mulay wrote:
> > > > As I tried to inform Marc today morning but once my mail
> > > > bounced, the other time I had used the svlug.org forwarding
> > > > alias for him. I guess, that one may not reach him.
> > >
> > > My direct Email is marc at merlins.org. I got the message you resent.
> > >
> > > Let's be reasonable here, I'm not oncall for this machine
> > and I was gone
> > > car racing today. I'm also sufficiently busy with work that
> > you cannot
> > > expect an answer from me after 3H, sometimes it takes me a
> > day or a little
> > > more.
> > >
> > > Marc
> > > --
> > > "A mouse is a device used to point at the xterm you want to
> > type in" - A.S.R.
> > > Microsoft is to operating systems & security ....
> > >                                       .... what McDonalds
> > is to gourmet cooking
> > > Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/   |   Finger
> > marc_f at merlins.org for PGP key
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Steve Traugott  (KG6HDQ)
> > Speaker Coordinator, Silicon Valley Linux Users Group
> > http://www.svlug.org
> > --
> > UNIX/Linux Infrastructure Architect, TerraLuna LLC
> > stevegt at TerraLuna.Org
> > http://www.stevegt.com
> >