[Speakers] Re: SVLUG PROPOSED February, March -- Guido van Rossum

[Joyce Cao Traugott]

February is confirmed.  I just haven't had chance to update the website yet.  So
March will be the first opening.

Joyce

stevegt at TerraLuna.Org wrote:

> Hi Guido,
>
> I'll make it easier for you -- I'm the speaker coordinator for SVLUG;
> Ani is on our program committee.  You can relay through either one of
> us.  We'd love to have you speak.  Our next open month appears to be
> February -- March is open also.  Ani, Joyce, and everyone on the
> speakers list, does anyone see any conflict with booking Guido for a
> Python talk in either of those two months?
>
> Guido, which month was it you wanted?
>
> Steve
>
> On Thu, Oct 16, 2003 at 08:33:26PM -0700, Marc MERLIN wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 16, 2003 at 10:13:40AM -0700, Aniruddha Mulay wrote:
> > > Marc,
> > >
> > > There seems to be some problem with the SVLUG speakers list
> > > mailman settings.
> >
> > Short version, there is nothing wrong with the settings, read the error
> > message to see what's wrong with the sender.
> >
> > > BTW, the mailer system responsible for <speakers at svlug.org> refuses
> > > mail from my home box (which is a Linux box on a cable broadband
> > > system).  It seems it doesn't like to receive mail from hosts without
> > > MX records.  I think that's not according to the mail specs, so please
> > > don't ask me to fix *my* system (I can't).
> >
> > Hi Guido,
> >
> > >    ----- Transcript of session follows -----
> > > ... while talking to svlug.org.:
> > > >>> RCPT To:<speakers at svlug.org>
> > > 451-Could not complete sender verify callout for
> > > 451-<guido at 12-236-54-216.client.attbi.com>.
> > > 451-The mail server(s) for the domain may be temporarily unreachable, or
> > > 451-they may be permanently unreachable from this server. In the latter case,
> > > 451-you need to change the address or create an MX record for its > domain
> > > 451-if it is supposed to be generally accessible from the Internet.
> > > 451 Talk to your mail administrator for details.
> > > <speakers at svlug.org>... Deferred: 451-Could not complete sender verify
> >
> > So, your problem is not that you are sending mail from the AT&T network,
> > we don't blackhole anyone (I have one of my home machines on that network
> > too for that matter)
> >
> > You problem is that your envelope sender is set by your mail server to
> > guido at 12-236-54-216.client.attbi.com, but you are refusing mail at
> > that address.
> > gandalf:~$ telnet 12-236-54-216.client.attbi.com smtp
> > Trying 12.236.54.216...
> > telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused
> >
> > You cannot send mail with a fake envelope sender (which this one is), it has
> > to be something that can be bounced back to (failing to do that, not only
> > means that you have been missing on numerous messages send to your envelope
> > sender, like bounces, vacation and other autoreplies, but also this leaves
> > the remote mail servers you talk to unable to send you bounces, and they
> > get stuck wasting resources trying to reach you).
> > This mail setup simply lets you know that it will not accept mail from you
> > that cannot be bounced (it does not want the burden of losing a reply for
> > you, so the only way it can let you know is by refusing your mail).
> >
> > This is easy to fix, just setup your mail server to masquerade your envelope
> > from to say guido at python.org and all will be well.
> >
> > If you are not able to fix your MTA, your options are:
> > 1) send your mail with the same address from any other mail server
> >    (this won't fix your real problem though)
> > 2) ask us to whitelist your fake at&t Email address, but here again, this
> >    won't fix your mail setup and you still will miss out on bounces and
> >    will be unable to Email sites like sourceforge.net
> >
> > BTW, I won't be able to get a reply from you if you send it from your
> > home machine before it gets fixed, but you can Email me from elsewhere if
> > needed.
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 16, 2003 at 12:07:07PM -0700, Aniruddha Mulay wrote:
> > > Marc,
> > >
> > > Would you please accept this e-mail ? :)
> >
> > I got your first mail :)
> > (I read personal mail on a regular basis, but not always list mail)
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 16, 2003 at 12:57:29PM -0700, Ian Kluft wrote:
> > > Ani -
> > >
> > > I guess I should be flattered that you seem to think I'm able to fix
> > > anything. :-)  But I don't have admin access to the MailMan installation
> > > on Marc's server.  I believe that Steve and Joyce may have admin access
> > > to the speakers list so I've CC'ed them on this in case it's anything
> > > that can be administered from the web interface, and so they're aware
> > > of your report.
> >
> > The have access (I think Don does too, although he might have lost it), but
> > this has nothing to do with mailman.
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 16, 2003 at 01:34:51PM -0700, Aniruddha Mulay wrote:
> > > As I tried to inform Marc today morning but once my mail
> > > bounced, the other time I had used the svlug.org forwarding
> > > alias for him. I guess, that one may not reach him.
> >
> > My direct Email is marc at merlins.org. I got the message you resent.
> >
> > Let's be reasonable here, I'm not oncall for this machine and I was gone
> > car racing today. I'm also sufficiently busy with work that you cannot
> > expect an answer from me after 3H, sometimes it takes me a day or a little
> > more.
> >
> > Marc
> > --
> > "A mouse is a device used to point at the xterm you want to type in" - A.S.R.
> > Microsoft is to operating systems & security ....
> >                                       .... what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking
> > Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/   |   Finger marc_f at merlins.org for PGP key
> >
>
> --
> Steve Traugott  (KG6HDQ)
> Speaker Coordinator, Silicon Valley Linux Users Group
> http://www.svlug.org
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> stevegt at TerraLuna.Org
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