[Speakers] SVLUG PROPOSED February, March -- Guido van Rossum

[stevegt@TerraLuna.Org]

Hi Guido, 

I'll make it easier for you -- I'm the speaker coordinator for SVLUG;
Ani is on our program committee.  You can relay through either one of
us.  We'd love to have you speak.  Our next open month appears to be
February -- March is open also.  Ani, Joyce, and everyone on the
speakers list, does anyone see any conflict with booking Guido for a
Python talk in either of those two months?

Guido, which month was it you wanted?

Steve


On Thu, Oct 16, 2003 at 08:33:26PM -0700, Marc MERLIN wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 16, 2003 at 10:13:40AM -0700, Aniruddha Mulay wrote:
> > Marc,
> > 
> > There seems to be some problem with the SVLUG speakers list
> > mailman settings.
>  
> Short version, there is nothing wrong with the settings, read the error
> message to see what's wrong with the sender.
>  
> > BTW, the mailer system responsible for <speakers at svlug.org> refuses
> > mail from my home box (which is a Linux box on a cable broadband
> > system).  It seems it doesn't like to receive mail from hosts without
> > MX records.  I think that's not according to the mail specs, so please
> > don't ask me to fix *my* system (I can't).
>  
> Hi Guido,
>  
> >    ----- Transcript of session follows -----
> > ... while talking to svlug.org.:
> > >>> RCPT To:<speakers at svlug.org>
> > 451-Could not complete sender verify callout for
> > 451-<guido at 12-236-54-216.client.attbi.com>.
> > 451-The mail server(s) for the domain may be temporarily unreachable, or
> > 451-they may be permanently unreachable from this server. In the latter case,
> > 451-you need to change the address or create an MX record for its > domain
> > 451-if it is supposed to be generally accessible from the Internet.
> > 451 Talk to your mail administrator for details.
> > <speakers at svlug.org>... Deferred: 451-Could not complete sender verify
> 
> So, your problem is not that you are sending mail from the AT&T network, 
> we don't blackhole anyone (I have one of my home machines on that network
> too for that matter)
> 
> You problem is that your envelope sender is set by your mail server to
> guido at 12-236-54-216.client.attbi.com, but you are refusing mail at
> that address.
> gandalf:~$ telnet 12-236-54-216.client.attbi.com smtp
> Trying 12.236.54.216...
> telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused
> 
> You cannot send mail with a fake envelope sender (which this one is), it has
> to be something that can be bounced back to (failing to do that, not only
> means that you have been missing on numerous messages send to your envelope
> sender, like bounces, vacation and other autoreplies, but also this leaves
> the remote mail servers you talk to unable to send you bounces, and they
> get stuck wasting resources trying to reach you).
> This mail setup simply lets you know that it will not accept mail from you
> that cannot be bounced (it does not want the burden of losing a reply for
> you, so the only way it can let you know is by refusing your mail).
> 
> This is easy to fix, just setup your mail server to masquerade your envelope
> from to say guido at python.org and all will be well.
> 
> If you are not able to fix your MTA, your options are:
> 1) send your mail with the same address from any other mail server
>    (this won't fix your real problem though)
> 2) ask us to whitelist your fake at&t Email address, but here again, this
>    won't fix your mail setup and you still will miss out on bounces and
>    will be unable to Email sites like sourceforge.net
> 
> BTW, I won't be able to get a reply from you if you send it from your
> home machine before it gets fixed, but you can Email me from elsewhere if
> needed.
> 
> 
> On Thu, Oct 16, 2003 at 12:07:07PM -0700, Aniruddha Mulay wrote:
> > Marc,
> > 
> > Would you please accept this e-mail ? :)
> 
> I got your first mail :)
> (I read personal mail on a regular basis, but not always list mail)
> 
> On Thu, Oct 16, 2003 at 12:57:29PM -0700, Ian Kluft wrote:
> > Ani -
> > 
> > I guess I should be flattered that you seem to think I'm able to fix
> > anything. :-)  But I don't have admin access to the MailMan installation
> > on Marc's server.  I believe that Steve and Joyce may have admin access
> > to the speakers list so I've CC'ed them on this in case it's anything
> > that can be administered from the web interface, and so they're aware
> > of your report.
>  
> The have access (I think Don does too, although he might have lost it), but
> this has nothing to do with mailman.
>  
> 
> On Thu, Oct 16, 2003 at 01:34:51PM -0700, Aniruddha Mulay wrote:
> > As I tried to inform Marc today morning but once my mail
> > bounced, the other time I had used the svlug.org forwarding
> > alias for him. I guess, that one may not reach him.
>  
> My direct Email is marc at merlins.org. I got the message you resent.
> 
> Let's be reasonable here, I'm not oncall for this machine and I was gone
> car racing today. I'm also sufficiently busy with work that you cannot
> expect an answer from me after 3H, sometimes it takes me a day or a little
> more.
>  
> Marc
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