[Smaug] UCSC Linux Install Bash!

Peter Belew abcruzww at gmail.com
Thu Feb 23 17:10:16 PST 2006

Hi -

On 2/23/06, Meg McRoberts <dreidellhasa at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Just passing thoughts from a lurker on the list...
> What is the purpose of an installfest like this?  I would think one would want
> to try to install as many different distros as possible for the experience and
> to compare and contrast.  And I might give some priority to the distros that are
> most widely used in business for the students who will soon be hitting the job
> market -- that would be RedHat (which I find fairly noxious myself), SuSE, and

 For non-commercial use Fedora would be appropriate,
since it's free and based on RedHat. I was using the regular
Redhats on my main computer till Fedora came out.

> Debian, I think, maybe also Mandrake.  And then definitely do

 Mandrake has been renamed Mandriva; also they merged
 with the Brazilian Conectiva, which was responsible for
 the porting of apt-get to handle RPMs.

 For Debian fans (and some others) Ubuntu is a variant with
 some more user-friendly aspects, and a more regular
 release cycle. You can download ISOs or request a few
 CDs for free! I can bring a few CDs of that. They are due
 for a new release in a couple of months. Since it's
 a Debian variant, updates are with the Debian apt-get
 package, though Ubuntu has its own builds of most
 everything, which are on their main servers on the Isle
 of Man. The company started in South Africa. I have
 Ubuntu installed on my laptop and 2 other computers.
 Ubuntu comes with a 'live disk' in addition to an install
 disk - you can run Linux off of that, even on a Windows

 This is similar to Knoppix, another Debian variant,
 which only comes as a live CD (though you can actually
 install it if you want to). I recently used a live version
 to get files off a Windows XP system whose OS was
 fouled up beyond redemption. Also the live systems are
 useful for partitioning a system that has Windows on it
 before installing Linux.

 There are a few local fans of Gentoo, for which one typically
 rebuilds everything in the system when installing to optimize
 the software for one's system. Also possibly that may give
 one more control of what's on the system.

 I just updated the Linux part of this web page:


 - Peter

>some of the more
> esoteric favorites and have some serious geek fun.  You'll certainly learn
> something that will come in handy the next time someone asks for a recommendation
> on a distro...
> Just a thought -- use or ignore as you choose ;-)
> meg
> --- cerise at armory.com wrote:
> > Hi Shaeleya,
> >    I can't speak for everyone, but I can certain speak for myself when I say
> > that I'd love to help out in any way possible.  I used to be at UCSC and ran
> > the SlugLUG prior to graduating.
> >    We used to hold installfests by the whiteboards in the bottom level of
> > Baskin Engineering.  We got the good folks at CATS to leave a couple of ports
> > connected over there and typically set up a couple of hubs to accomodate
> > everyone.  I don't know if Josh (Homan, I think?) is still there, but he was
> > the guy I talked to.
> >    I used to bring along a fair amount of spare hardware for diagnostics.
> > That usually included a PCI net card, PCMCIA net card, spare monitor, and spare
> > keyboard.  Additionally, I'd bring along as much net cable as I could scrounge
> > up, power strips, and power cords.
> >    There were predictably the usual holy wars about which distro to use.  I was
> > always a fan of Slackware.  The less enlightened pushed Debian.  Somewhere
> > between installing Linux, we found time to have the usual arguments about which
> > distro was superior.  Y'know, good geek fun.
> >    I was trying to push the idea of a default distro the last year I was there.
> > Most people come in without a real idea of which flavor they want.  Since I was
> > trying to start a series of linux teaching sessions at meetings, it seemed like
> > a good idea to know the majority distro.
> >    Most people are just curious about Linux and want to keep Windows on a
> > partition.  This is probably less of a big deal with NTFS being more common,
> > but we asked people to defrag their hard disks before coming over.  That
> > usually made running Partition Magic or parted relatively painless.
> >    The real challenge, of course, is getting people to start using Linux once
> > they have it on their system.
> >    The CS professors were generally happy to have people do announcements before
> > their class and/or put up advertisements.  Pat Tantalo, Darrell Long, Ethan
> > Miller, and Scott Brandt in particular.  I never figured out who to go to about
> > putting up flyers, so a couple of people used to go around papering the campus
> > which no doubt made us real popular with the folks cleaning them up.
> >    The interest we managed varied in proportion to advertising.  The worst
> > showing had something like 3 people come in with ~15 people around to help.
> > The best showing had 23 people come in with 5 people helping.  That was a bit
> > stressful, but we managed to attract the attention of the Fish Rap that year, so
> > all in all, it was to the good.  8)
> >
> > -Phil/CERisE
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 23, 2006 at 08:20:42AM -0800, Shaeleya Miller wrote:
> > > Hello-
> > >
> > > My name is Shaeleya and I am a student at UCSC who is currently enrolled in
> > > a hardware and Linux section with the Global Informational Internship
> > > Program (GIIP).
> > >
> > > We are planning a Linux Install Fest for March 16th (12-6) on campus and are
> > > hoping to involve other members of the Linux community.
> > >
> > > Any way in which you would like to take part would be greatly appreciated,
> > > whether it is
> > > - Brainstorming/planning with us for the event
> > > - Attending and troubleshooting (tech assistance)
> > > - Advice
> > > - Any other way that you would like to participate
> > >
> > > If you would like more information or would like to join us, please contact
> > > me at this e-mail address.
> > >
> > > Look forward to hearing from you!
> > >
> > > - Shaeleya
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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