[Smaug] Web site maintenance (was: scruz.org re-design)

cerise@armory.com cerise at armory.com
Wed Nov 9 11:44:16 PST 2005

Yeah, I don't think anyone is in disagreement on Jay's offer being
the best.  I started to balk at the idea of a CMS or the previously mentioned
use of mediawiki, but then I started thinking larger.  One project I've
always figured I'd get around to was putting up a list of problems I've
run across and my solutions to them.  I'm fairly active, but if we were
to multiply that number out by the membership of SMAUG rather than just me,
I think we'll find that we have a pretty large knowledge base in no time.

Jay:  What needs to be set up and what can we do to help it along?

Jacob:  If memory serves, the last time domain registration came up, you
fronted the cash for it.  If we're switching homes, then we ought to
move the domain over (although, in the worst case, we could put up an
HTTP redirect).  Do you have control over that?  If not, any ideas on


On Wed, Nov 09, 2005 at 05:36:13AM -0800, Thomas Leavitt wrote:
> I was just thinking that Got.Net would be the logical place to host...
> they host non-profit orgs for free, and yes, definitely, they've got
> staying power. Last man standing, in a lot of ways.
> I'd offer to host it myself*, on my company's server (which is located
> in Got.Net's fancy new co-lo facility), but having Got.Net handle it
> would be one less hassle/risk for me, and they've got more resources
> than I do. :)
> I've got no experience with Drupal - generally, I try and stick with
> lightweight point solutions, and the kind of wholesale solution offered
> by something like Drupal just hasn't been on my wishlist.
> Personally, I think y'all ought to seriously consider Jay's offer.
> Regards,
> Thomas Leavitt
> * My wife and I run a small web design service, and host a few of our
> clients off of our in-house server. 
> ** With regards to link backs: we normally stick a little "designed by"
> icon on our client's pages, and usually do the same when we design a
> site gratis... so far as I know, over the past couple of years, NONE of
> our clients have actually come to us through such a vehicle, so if
> Anthony's motives were actually commercial, he'd be way off the mark. :)
> *** With regards to aesthetics (technical merits re: accessibility or
> maintainability aside), neither the existing site, nor Anthony's
> prototype, are particularly good (or awful, for that matter).  I've seen
> far worse, and a lot better.
> I *know* my wife (our principal designer) could design a site that is
> easily edited by hand, and with a much higher degree of polish...
> whether it'd meet accessibility guidelines, or have same technical
> elegance as described by the existing system, I can't say.
> I'd offer to have her redesign the site for free (roughly $500-1000
> worth of work), but, uh, that doesn't seem prudent at this point, since
> yes we'd normally expect a link back as a designer's credit, and yes,
> it'd be a forklift type upgrade (at least design wise) and someone else
> would have to figure out how to integrate it into the existing system if
> that were to be preserved.
> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 10:53:09 -0800 (PST)
> From: Jay Campbell <jay at got.net>
> Subject: Re: [Smaug] Web site maintenance (was: scruz.org re-design)
> To: Rick Moen <rick at linuxmafia.com>
> Cc: smaug at lists.svlug.org
> Message-ID: <200511081853.jA8Ir9TM006429 at sphinx.got.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
> > Quoting Anthony Ettinger (apwebdesign at yahoo.com):
> > 
> > > I would recommend either mediawiki or wordpress, only
> > > requirement is php and mysql.
> > 
> > This presupposes hosting.  Jacob put the group's pages at SourceForge
> > because it's free of charge (which didn't thrill me at the time, but
> it 
> > wasn't my call).  Do you have a better place to suggest?
> I'd be happy to run a Drupal for SMAUG on the Got.net network. Group
> blogging, individual blogging, discussion forums, image libraries,
> etc etc etc. I don't make many SMAUG meetings these days but Got.net 
> does have some "staying power" and we dig you guys. Makes me miss SCLUG.
> j
> -- 
> Jay Campbell   
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