[Smaug] scruz.org re-design

cerise@armory.com cerise at armory.com
Mon Nov 7 22:35:21 PST 2005

On Mon, Nov 07, 2005 at 09:51:09PM -0800, Rick Moen wrote:
> You know, I'd like to say I agree with you, but I honestly do not 
> see this at _all_.  That is not what Web designers do.  They come up
> with something, and hand it off to the client.  
> I appreciate Anthony's generosity in doing this work, and I meant no 
> criticism in raising the point:  I was simply pointing out that claiming 
> Anthony's idea of a Web site is more likely to be maintained is a
> non-sequitur conclusion.

You might not have seen this coming Rick, but Anthony is a member of the *UG.
In putting his work out there, I'm getting the message that he's willing to
take ownership of it and handle maintenance.

Anthony: if this isn't the case, now would be the time to let me know.

You're not a programmer as far as I know, so maybe you don't understand this,
but accepting someone else's work is a bit of a pain.  It means that you're
accepting the weaknesses of their design.  It also means that in order
for future work to make sense, it must be done with more or less the same
philosophy in mind.

If you find yourself objecting, I suggest working as a programmer and finding
> Basically, you've let yourself get fed a line by a Web designer, who
> simply wants to chuck everything out for reasons entirely of his own.

To put some perspective on things, I didn't allow myself to be fed anything
by anyone.  Anthony did some work.  I'm giving him credit and letting him
know that if he's willing to do a better job of maintaining things than
things are being maintained now, then he has my say-so to knock himself out.


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